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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#1261 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:45 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:I'm still concerned that the GFS doesn't have a good grip on the synoptic pattern past 170 hours. Combine that with the fact that "Lee" in the GOM may be throwing a wrench into everything. Nothing is moving much at all from 168 hours and beyond. And then the movement north of Katia looks suspect because it appears to drive it into a ridge to the north. I'm totally confused and lost now. Like I said yesterday, I think we need to wait till Thursday, probably late to get a better handle on the setup. In fact, Thursday may be too soon and we may need to come back and look at the models closer to Saturday or Sunday.

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SFT, I think the last part of your closing sentence is when I am inclined to agree with you. I hope by Saturday we will have better indications and agreement with the models as to how Katia will be intensity wise and where she ends up enventually.
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#1262 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:45 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:I'm still concerned that the GFS doesn't have a good grip on the synoptic pattern past 170 hours. Combine that with the fact that "Lee" in the GOM may be throwing a wrench into everything. Nothing is moving much at all from 168 hours and beyond. And then the movement north of Katia looks suspect because it appears to drive it into a ridge to the north. I'm totally confused and lost now. Like I said yesterday, I think we need to wait till Thursday, probably late to get a better handle on the setup. In fact, Thursday may be too soon and we may need to come back and look at the models closer to Saturday or Sunday.

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SFT, I think the last part of your closing sentence is when I am inclined to agree with you. I hope by Saturday we will have better indications and agreement with the models as to how Katia will be intensity wise and where she ends up eventually.
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#1263 Postby Raebie » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:47 pm

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#1264 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:50 pm

Raebie wrote:Tell me this isn't a hurricane.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/flash-avn.html


I vote Fetus
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#1265 Postby Raebie » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:52 pm

Lol Exactly.
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#1266 Postby BensonTCwatcher » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:52 pm

Yeah on the 168 GFS that setup looks bogus. But hey it's the GFS 168 hrs out. Need to watch for trends starting sat. Still likely a recurve before se coast either way. Less likely but possible is the high builds back some and a possible Lee is the spoiler and pulls Kat in before a recurve.
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#1267 Postby meriland23 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:53 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:I know it is only the NOGAPS, but take a look at the 18Z run @ 180hr. Heading WNW toward the SE Coast.....

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/180i.gif/]http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/6134/180i.gif


Crickey! That is quite the model there, colors are excruciatingly dark.. well lets hope that does not pan out.
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#1268 Postby supercane » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:54 pm

Latest microwave:
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#1269 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:09 pm

Looks like the 18z HWRF has a pronounced bend to the west at the end while the 18z GFDL is more WNW
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#1270 Postby Buck » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:18 pm

Katia does love that fetal position look. I noticed it a couple of days ago but now she's really working it.
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#1271 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:21 pm

supercane wrote:Latest microwave:
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I was about to post a different microwave image... but she was clearly a hurricane earlier.. but there should be no doubt now.

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Re: ATL: KATIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1272 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:23 pm

Looks like an alien fetus from that movie Alien.


Perfect Comma Shape. I would expect upgrade soon.
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#1273 Postby HurricaneWarning92 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:23 pm

whos staying up till the 00z EURO? i think i will, even though i have class tomorrow... :D
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1274 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:25 pm

SSD dvorak agrees.

31/2345 UTC 15.0N 43.4W T4.0/4.0 KATIA -- Atlantic
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#1275 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:26 pm

Yeah, these microwave images confirms it for me. This is a hurricane. Nice closed eyewall on the imagery.
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#1276 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:28 pm

Yeah I would say 65 kt at advisory for my guess.
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#1277 Postby mf_dolphin » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:30 pm

Hate to be picky but it's not a hurricane until the NHC says so. Let's try to be accurate folks.
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#1278 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:31 pm

Yep I agree, I think its highly likely that Katia gets upgraded to hurricane status very soon.
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#1279 Postby Raebie » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:31 pm

I just said tell me it's not. :D
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1280 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:34 pm

00z Best Track

Agrees with SSD dvorak on a 65kt hurricane.

AL, 12, 2011090100, , BEST, 0, 148N, 436W, 65, 987, HU

ftp://ftp.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/ ... 011.invest
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