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#1161 Postby HurricaneWarning92 » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:40 pm

Well strengthening over Cuba may not be credible... at all, but as for Florida, it is. Florida is VERY flat, specially SFL. In addition, the Everglades may even help this not weaken.
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#1162 Postby Rgv20 » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:40 pm

Its going to be interesting to see if the 0zCMC stays with its more westward solution of the 12z run.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1163 Postby ROCK » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:41 pm

the ridge has retreated in Texas....thats promising....not so great for you floridians though on this run....
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#1164 Postby Kory » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:41 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:I want to see tonight's CMC and especially the Euro. If both agree, then things will get interesting.

They agreed a couple days ago and look what happened a few runs later...it shifted again.
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#1165 Postby ConvergenceZone » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:41 pm

gatorcane wrote:Hmmm so between hours 114 and 132 it goes from 997MB to 993MB over the high mountains of Cuba....I don't think so.



I think it was WXMAN or another met that said GFS doesn't know how to handle island interaction, so to the model it's as if the islands are invisible, so yes, I'm sure it won't be even near this strength if it takes the path that GFS is showing
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#1166 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:42 pm

Okay so how many days does this make it that these models are calling for a FL. hit or close call?

Anyway If this ever does develop then I would start feeling just a little concerned if I lived anywhere in Fl. JMHO
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#1167 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:42 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:I want to see tonight's CMC and especially the Euro. If both agree, then things will get interesting.


The Euro has hit South Florida the past two runs in a row now (00Z and 12Z).
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#1168 Postby HurricaneQueen » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:42 pm

[quote="Vortex"]H162 rides right up the spine of the state....near worst case scenario....

Took the words right out of my mouth. Been thinking that for the last 45 minutes or so. Fortunately, it is still early in the game and the intensity forecasts are wacky. Hopefully, we dodge another bullet.

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#1169 Postby Vortex » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:42 pm

gatorcane wrote:Let's see so if I am reading that right. It makes landfall in Miami as a 986MB cane, and heads north up to Palm Beach over land mind you....and is a 982MB cane. Wow the GFS is going crazy. :eek:


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If you remember in 99' Irene came at us from the ssw and was strengthening as it was moving over southern FL...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1170 Postby Steve H. » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:43 pm

Rock, get some sleep! There will be many more runs in the coming days that will change this. I think this system is destined for the GOM. The only concern I have is that troughs have been unusually strong in the East Coast this year. But in terms of climatology, this system should shift west in future runs. I am hoping this will shift west!
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#1171 Postby WeatherEmperor » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:43 pm

gatorcane wrote:Let's see so if I am reading that right. It makes landfall in Miami as a 986MB cane, and heads north up to Palm Beach over land mind you....and is a 982MB cane. Wow the GFS is going crazy. :eek:


Remember Fay in 2008? It actually got stronger while over land on the FL peninsula for a little while before getting weaker. In fact, I think it nearly reached hurricane status while over FL. So it is possible for this to happen. Not probable but possible.
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#1172 Postby boca » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:43 pm

I hope S Florida ends up in the 5 day cone so it will miss us.
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#1173 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:43 pm

Katrina Also Strengthened over land I believe.
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#1174 Postby Vortex » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:43 pm

Stormcenter wrote:Okay so how many days does this make it that these models are calling for a FL. hit or close call?

Anyway If this ever does develop then I would start feeling just a little concerned if I lived anywhere in Fl. JMHO



since the 00Z GFS run last Sunday night
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#1175 Postby psyclone » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:45 pm

Kory wrote:You realized how many cities the GFS has destroyed on its past runs? I'm not buying any of these shifts until we have a well established system in the Caribbean...it could curve northward to the east of Florida and not be a United States problem.

100% correct but not as exciting an option for weather nuts to contemplate. last year the gfs blew my house down about 9 times and killed me about 8 times. we had no storms approach my region last year.
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#1176 Postby Blown Away » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:46 pm

gatorcane wrote:Let's see so if I am reading that right. It makes landfall in Miami as a 986MB cane, and heads north up to Palm Beach over land mind you....and is a 982MB cane. Wow the GFS is going crazy. :eek:


Could not find a hurricane coming from the SE that went over Cuba/Hispaniola that landfalled as a major along the EC of SFL.

00z GFS track = Cleo track

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1177 Postby lonelymike » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:46 pm

ROCK wrote:
WeatherEmperor wrote:Tonight's 00Z GFS should be rolling by now. Where are Micheal and ROCK??



I was watering my grass illegally... :lol: ..since they started mandatory rationing...

ok lets watch this....run



Ya know times are tough in TX when u have to urinate on your lawn to keep it growing :wink:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1178 Postby caneseddy » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:46 pm

ROCK wrote:the ridge has retreated in Texas....thats promising....not so great for you floridians though on this run....


Ya think????? :grr:
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#1179 Postby SouthDadeFish » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:47 pm

boca wrote:I hope S Florida ends up in the 5 day cone so it will miss us.


Lol I'm not too sure why people keep saying this. The NHC is getting better and better at track forecasting, and this saying may not be valid for much longer if it even works now.
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#1180 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:48 pm

It (GFS) started with New Orleans and then moved eastward and to be honest with you hasn't really changed much since then.
But like you said until there is "actually" an established system out there the models are really worthless.....sorry to offend
model watchers. IMO


Kory wrote:You realized how many cities the GFS has destroyed on its past runs? I'm not buying any of these shifts until we have a well established system in the Caribbean...it could curve northward to the east of Florida and not be a United States problem.
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