ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

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Re: ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

#1881 Postby Portastorm » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:17 pm

Rock, we all have our blind spots. Even Wxman57! :wink:

ROCK wrote:
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ROCK wrote:12Z EURO would suggest even more west to mid-Texas coast...if that was the case then it would have plenty of water to get going....I wouldnt discount it WXMN57.....

this whole scenario seems eerily similar to IVAN II....it also hugged the coast a good ways before coming ashore in SWLA....


The Euro has been too far west with almost every storm this year (if not every one). For now, I discount it.


Yeah thats too bad you feel that way. It should have equal if not more weight than the east bias GFS...but we all have our favorites.... :D
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Re: ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

#1882 Postby MiamiHurricanes10 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:18 pm

According to the NWS (graphic is about 10 minutes old), the LLC of ex-05L currently is over Florida, very near Tallahassee.

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#1883 Postby Jag95 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:20 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:Reports of 40-50mph wind gusts around Mobile, AL in some of those heavier TStorms moving southward.


I didn't see much wind in that cluster of thunderstorms that just moved through but I caught up on the rain I've been missing out on in a hurry. Over 2 inches in less than an hour.
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#1884 Postby Aquawind » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:22 pm

While the usual wind and rain will be a concern. I hope this keeps people out of the water and the severe weather to a minimum to avoid death. It's these marginal/weaker forecasted systems that let people get stupid.
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#1885 Postby brunota2003 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:22 pm

Maybe those winds were associated with a downburst.
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#1886 Postby KWT » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:27 pm

Jag95 wrote:I didn't see much wind in that cluster of thunderstorms that just moved through but I caught up on the rain I've been missing out on in a hurry. Over 2 inches in less than an hour.


Its those sorts of rainfall totals that will cause most issues even this did become a TS down the line, 2 inches in less then an hour certainly could lead to some flooding issues.
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Re: ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

#1887 Postby shell70 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:28 pm

Not that this system is anything like Elena of 1985 but the computer model paths kind of remind me of it. I remember Elena being the storm that could not make up its mind and skirted the coast in 1985.

http://www.stormpulse.com/hurricane-elena-1985
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Re: ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

#1888 Postby KatDaddy » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:28 pm

Beautiful outflow across the N and Central GOM this evening. Be glad its not offshore.
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Re: ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

#1889 Postby caneman » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:33 pm

ROCK wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
ROCK wrote:12Z EURO would suggest even more west to mid-Texas coast...if that was the case then it would have plenty of water to get going....I wouldnt discount it WXMN57.....

this whole scenario seems eerily similar to IVAN II....it also hugged the coast a good ways before coming ashore in SWLA....


The Euro has been too far west with almost every storm this year (if not every one). For now, I discount it.


Yeah thats too bad you feel that way. It should have equal if not more weight than the east bias GFS...but we all have our favorites.... :D


I'll take wxmn57's blind spot on tropical systems over most people any day, hands down. :D
Odd that some Texas folks seem to like the (west biased) Euro and east GOM folks the (east biased) GFS :wink: I myself prefer a blend. Hopefully the newbies that come here for important info will know to trust the NHC and the blended models. :D
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Re: ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

#1890 Postby LSU2001 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:33 pm

Look at those cold cloud tops over south Mississippi. If that had a circulation under it we would be looking at a pretty strong storm.
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#1891 Postby KWT » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:34 pm

Indeed Katdaddy the outflow in the last 24hrs has been real good with this system, conditions in general are pretty good aloft, if this one gets enough real estate it develops IMO...pretty clear cut.
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Re: ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

#1892 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:34 pm

Up to 50%

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT SUN AUG 15 2010

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE...THE REMNANT OF TROPICAL DEPRESSION
FIVE...IS LOCATED OVER THE CENTRAL PANHANDLE OF FLORIDA. THIS
SYSTEM IS MOVING SOUTHWARD AT 10 MPH...AND SHOULD GRADUALLY TURN
SOUTHWESTWARD AND RE-EMERGE OVER THE NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO EARLY
MONDAY MORNING WHERE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BE
CONDUCIVE FOR POSSIBLE REDEVELOPMENT INTO A TROPICAL DEPRESSION.
THERE IS A MEDIUM CHANCE...50 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A
TROPICAL CYCLONE AGAIN DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS. REGARDLESS OF
DEVELOPMENT...THIS SYSTEM WILL BE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING LOCALLY
HEAVY RAINFALL AND STRONG GUSTY WINDS IN BRIEF SQUALLS ALONG THE
CENTRAL GULF COAST.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER STEWART/BRENNAN

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#1893 Postby nashrobertsx » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:35 pm

is that really bad stuff over south mississipi debris from TD #5. what is causing such syrong convection esepcially this late in the evening. Is that a sea breeze boundary that dropped down from the north. that looks like am impressive blob.
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Re: ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

#1894 Postby cyclogenesis » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:37 pm

August 15, 2010
this Sunday evening
636 PM CDT



Gang ~~ I have placed a new, Sunday evening, August 15, 2010, weather writing on to my website, which details the former T.D. #5 depression, and its outlook on Southeast Louisiana. You can find it at this following website link listed below:


http://cvamagic.tripod.com/






-- cyclogenesis
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Re: ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

#1895 Postby nashrobertsx » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:37 pm

shell70 wrote:Not that this system is anything like Elena of 1985 but the computer model paths kind of remind me of it. I remember Elena being the storm that could not make up its mind and skirted the coast in 1985.

http://www.stormpulse.com/hurricane-elena-1985


I was a news reporter covering Elena and we started in plaqumines parish, next day we jumped to biloxi, next day it was mobile, then it was pensacola..then we were going back west and it landed in biloxo and flagtened some homes, remember elena well!!!
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Re: ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

#1896 Postby cwachal » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:38 pm

cycloneye wrote:Up to 50%

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT SUN AUG 15 2010

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE...THE REMNANT OF TROPICAL DEPRESSION
FIVE...IS LOCATED OVER THE CENTRAL PANHANDLE OF FLORIDA. THIS
SYSTEM IS MOVING SOUTHWARD AT 10 MPH...AND SHOULD GRADUALLY TURN
SOUTHWESTWARD AND RE-EMERGE OVER THE NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO EARLY
MONDAY MORNING WHERE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BE
CONDUCIVE FOR POSSIBLE REDEVELOPMENT INTO A TROPICAL DEPRESSION.
THERE IS A MEDIUM CHANCE...50 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A
TROPICAL CYCLONE AGAIN DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS. REGARDLESS OF
DEVELOPMENT...THIS SYSTEM WILL BE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING LOCALLY
HEAVY RAINFALL AND STRONG GUSTY WINDS IN BRIEF SQUALLS ALONG THE
CENTRAL GULF COAST.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER STEWART/BRENNAN

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo/two_atl.gif]



sorry that is a medium risk not a high risk
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#1897 Postby KWT » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:41 pm

What is really worrying is the deep convection is already focused over E.LA and MS which is giving some pretty big rains in the last couple of hours. Could see some totals over the next 48hrs getting towards a foot I reckon...
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Re: ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

#1898 Postby caneman » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:44 pm

The only good thing is that it is moving at 10 mph. Lets hope this continues and it doesn't stall or crawl but yeah wow does it look impressive.
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Re: ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

#1899 Postby DTWright » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:44 pm

We've been getting it good here for the last couple of hours. Much needed rain.
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Re: ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

#1900 Postby perk » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:45 pm

ROCK wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
ROCK wrote:12Z EURO would suggest even more west to mid-Texas coast...if that was the case then it would have plenty of water to get going....I wouldnt discount it WXMN57.....

this whole scenario seems eerily similar to IVAN II....it also hugged the coast a good ways before coming ashore in SWLA....


The Euro has been too far west with almost every storm this year (if not every one). For now, I discount it.


Yeah thats too bad you feel that way. It should have equal if not more weight than the east bias GFS...but we all have our favorites.... :D


Rock i'm really anticipating the NHC's first track on this system. My guess is if the Euro still has Texas in it's sights they will go with the blend of the models and not discount a good performing model.
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