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Re: WPAC: MEGI - Tropical Storm

#181 Postby Typhoon Hunter » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:24 am

Typhoon10 wrote:TH and others. At this early stage, how close do you think it may come to HK? As am off at the moment, am thinking of maybe going to Philippines then heading upto somewhere near Bagiuo?


Given what the models have been showing I think it will pass south of HK, ECMWF been taking this into W Guangdong and Hainan for a while now.

As for heading to the Philippines, what will you be hoping to achieve and see? Baguio is on the opposite coast to where Megi might make landfall so it would be a long way to go just for some wind and rain. Besides typhoons in the Philippines aren't much "fun," it's a very hard grind and you can expect lots of infrastructure problems if it comes in big.

Somewhere like Taiwan would be a much better choice if you're interested in witnessing a typhoon.
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Re: WPAC: MEGI - Tropical Storm

#182 Postby dexterlabio » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:26 am

RobWESTPACWX wrote:You know it's not out of the question, the error cone is right on the edge of CEBU and yes the models are trending S but I don't believe that far south, you may get some outer rain bands with with winds but I think the Typhoon Strength winds will stay N of Samar.... Still a few days out though. I think most of the people here would agree with me on that much right?


Well IMO Megi won't go too far south. I agree with you Rob, we have few more days to go, but the areas concern could be Central Luzon up to Taiwan.
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#183 Postby supercane » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:44 am

Up to 60kt on JTWC's 09Z advisory:

WTPN31 PGTW 140900
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVMARFCSTCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING//
RMKS/
1. TROPICAL STORM 15W (MEGI) WARNING NR 006
01 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONE IN NORTHWESTPAC
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
---
WARNING POSITION:
140600Z --- NEAR 12.7N 139.2E
MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 305 DEGREES AT 08 KTS
POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 060 NM
POSITION BASED ON CENTER LOCATED BY A COMBINATION OF
SATELLITE AND AIRCRAFT
PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 060 KT, GUSTS 075 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 020 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
020 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
020 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
020 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 055 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
045 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
050 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
REPEAT POSIT: 12.7N 139.2E
---
FORECASTS:
12 HRS, VALID AT:
141800Z --- 13.5N 137.8E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 065 KT, GUSTS 080 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 025 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
025 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 065 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
065 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
065 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 305 DEG/ 09 KTS
---
24 HRS, VALID AT:
150600Z --- 14.5N 136.2E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 075 KT, GUSTS 090 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 025 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
025 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 040 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
040 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 085 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
080 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
075 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
080 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 300 DEG/ 10 KTS
---
36 HRS, VALID AT:
151800Z --- 15.5N 134.3E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 095 KT, GUSTS 115 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 035 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
035 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 055 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
055 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 105 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
100 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
095 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
105 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 48 HR POSIT: 295 DEG/ 11 KTS
---
EXTENDED OUTLOOK:
48 HRS, VALID AT:
160600Z --- 16.4N 132.1E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 105 KT, GUSTS 130 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 040 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
040 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 060 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
060 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 115 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
110 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
110 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
115 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 72 HR POSIT: 280 DEG/ 11 KTS
---
72 HRS, VALID AT:
170600Z --- 17.3N 127.6E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 115 KT, GUSTS 140 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 040 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
040 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 065 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
065 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
065 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
065 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 125 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
120 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
120 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
125 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 96 HR POSIT: 270 DEG/ 10 KTS
---
LONG RANGE OUTLOOK:
NOTE...ERRORS FOR TRACK HAVE AVERAGED NEAR 250 NM
ON DAY 4 AND 350 NM ON DAY 5... AND FOR INTENSITY
NEAR 20 KT EACH DAY.
---
96 HRS, VALID AT:
180600Z --- 17.3N 123.5E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 120 KT, GUSTS 145 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
VECTOR TO 120 HR POSIT: 265 DEG/ 09 KTS
---
120 HRS, VALID AT:
190600Z --- 16.8N 119.6E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 095 KT, GUSTS 115 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
---
REMARKS:
140900Z POSITION NEAR 12.9N 138.9E.
TROPICAL STORM (TS) 15W (MEGI) LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 200 NM NORTH-
NORTHEAST OF YAP, HAS TRACKED NORTHWESTWARD AT 08 KNOTS OVER THE
PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED MULTISPECTRAL SATELLITE IMAGERY DEPICTS
IMPROVED CONSOLIDATION WITH A CENTRAL DENSE OVERCAST FEATURE
EVIDENT. A 140422Z AMSR-E 36V IMAGE SHOWS IMPROVED CONVECTIVE
BANDING WRAPPING INTO A DEFINED LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER (LLCC);
HOWEVER, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE YET OF AN EYE IN EITHER VISIBLE OR
MICROWAVE IMAGERY. OVERALL, THE SYSTEM HAS CONTINUED TO STRENGTHEN
AND THE CURRENT INTENSITY HAS BEEN INCREASED TO 60 KNOTS, PRIMARILY
BASED ON AIRCRAFT RECONNAISSANCE DATA AT 140436Z INDICATING MAXIMUM
SUSTAINED SURFACE WINDS OF 62 KNOTS AND MINIMUM SLP OF 986 MB;
DVORAK ESTIMATES VARY WIDELY AND RANGE FROM AS LOW AS 35 KNOTS
(RJTD) TO 65 KNOTS (PGTW). THERE IS GOOD CONFIDENCE IN THE CURRENT
POSITION BASED ON THE AIRCRAFT FIX DATA AND THE AMSR-E IMAGE, WHICH
WERE COINCIDENT. UPPER-LEVEL OUTFLOW IS GOOD WITH THE EXCEPTION OF
WEAK PRESSURE ON THE WEST SIDE DUE TO THE RELATIVELY WEAK
ANTICYLONIC FLOW FROM THE WEAKENING DISTURBANCE NEAR 10N 130E. THIS
DISTURBANCE MAY ALSO BE DISRUPTING LOW-LEVEL INFLOW OVER THE
SOUTHWEST QUADRANT. TS 15W IS FORECAST TO TRACK NORTHWESTWARD TO
WESTWARD THROUGH THE PERIOD UNDER THE STEERING INFLUENCE OF THE MID-
LEVEL SUBTROPICAL RIDGE POSITIONED NORTH. MODEL GUIDANCE IS TIGHTLY
CLUSTERED AND IS IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THIS FORECAST. TS 15W IS
FORECAST TO INTENSIFY AT A 15 KNOT PER DAY RATE THROUGH TAU 24 DUE
TO THE PROXIMITY OF THE DISTURBANCE AND ASSOCIATED ANTICYCLONE TO
THE WEST, HOWEVER, 15W IS EXPECTED TO RAPIDLY INTENSIFY AFTER TAU 24
DUE TO AN IMPROVING UPPER-LEVEL ENVIRONMENT AND IS FORECAST TO PEAK
AT 120 KNOTS BEFORE MAKING LANDFALL OVER LUZON AFTER TAU 96. MAXIMUM
SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT 140600Z IS 13 FEET. NEXT WARNINGS AT
141500Z, 142100Z, 150300Z AND 150900Z.//

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Re: WPAC: MEGI - Tropical Storm

#184 Postby RobWESTPACWX » Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:09 am

So much more organized now, I think 15W will might be a TY by 15Z...
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#185 Postby Typhoon Hunter » Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:15 am

Certainly close to it now Rob:

TXPN23 KNES 140902
SIMWIR

A. 15W (MEGI)

B. 14/0830Z

C. 12.7N

D. 138.9E

E. FIVE/MTSAT

F. T3.5/3.5/D1.0/24HRS

G. IR/EIR/SWIR/AMSRE

H. REMARKS...BEFORE SUN DOWN OVERSHOOTING TOPS ON VISIBLE IMAGERY
AIDED CURVED BANDING AND CENTER FIXING AND THOUGH THE SHIELD IS
WARMING INDIVIDUAL CELLS ALONG THE BAND CONTINUE TO BE VERY COLD AND
CAN BE MEASURED AT .9 TO 1.0 ON LOG10 FOR DT OF 3.5. MET IS 3.5. PT
IS 4.0. SYSTEM IS CLEARLY HIGH END T3.5 IF NOT ALREADY T4 OR HIGHER IN
INTENSITY FT BASED ON DT.
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Re: WPAC: MEGI - Tropical Storm

#186 Postby ManilaTC » Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:50 am

URPA12 PGUA 140451
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 14/04:10:10Z
B. 12 deg 42 min N
139 deg 20 min E
C. 700 mb 3009 m
D. 62 kt
E. 298 deg 3 nm
F. 254 deg 49 kt
G. 146 deg 15 nm
H. 986 mb
I. 11 C / 3202 m
J. 19 C / 3179 m
K. 3 C / NA
L. OPEN SE
M. C10
N. 12345 / 7
O. 0.02 / 5 nm
P. AF307 0330W MEGI OB 28
MAX FL WIND 64 KT E QUAD 02:28:30Z
EYEWALL BEGINNING TO FORM, APPROXIMATELY 70 PERCENT COVERAGE
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Re: WPAC: MEGI - Tropical Storm

#187 Postby dexterlabio » Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:53 am

Typhoon Hunter wrote:Certainly close to it now Rob:

TXPN23 KNES 140902
SIMWIR

A. 15W (MEGI)

B. 14/0830Z

C. 12.7N

D. 138.9E

E. FIVE/MTSAT

F. T3.5/3.5/D1.0/24HRS

G. IR/EIR/SWIR/AMSRE

H. REMARKS...BEFORE SUN DOWN OVERSHOOTING TOPS ON VISIBLE IMAGERY
AIDED CURVED BANDING AND CENTER FIXING AND THOUGH THE SHIELD IS
WARMING INDIVIDUAL CELLS ALONG THE BAND CONTINUE TO BE VERY COLD AND
CAN BE MEASURED AT .9 TO 1.0 ON LOG10 FOR DT OF 3.5. MET IS 3.5. PT
IS 4.0. SYSTEM IS CLEARLY HIGH END T3.5 IF NOT ALREADY T4 OR HIGHER IN
INTENSITY FT BASED ON DT.


Isn't this from JMA?
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Re: WPAC: MEGI - Tropical Storm

#188 Postby ManilaTC » Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:10 am

When i look at the weather sites, CIMSS now has it at Typhoon status.

Wow. A typhoon before it enters the PAR.
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#189 Postby KWT » Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:36 am

Looks like Megi has strengthened a good deal overnight, so looks like this is a big threat to The Phillippines afterall, wouldn't surpriseme at all if this was at 65kts now.

Could be a very powerful super Tyhpoon in the near future from the looks of how this is evolving, so this needs to be watched closely, few doubts in my mind that this is the big one this season
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Re: WPAC: MEGI - Tropical Storm

#190 Postby GCANE » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:10 am

Nice convergence roll starting up on MIMIC-TPW at 13N 138W.

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... t72hrs.gif

Doesn't look like any dry air around to cause problems.
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Re: WPAC: MEGI - Tropical Storm

#191 Postby GCANE » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:16 am

Looks real good: high rain-rate cells, very cold cloud tops, and a donut on microwave at 13N 139W.


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#192 Postby oaba09 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:18 am

I can't believe I missed this....I was so relaxed because of the lack of activity in the WPAC...
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#194 Postby KWT » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:19 am

I see no reason why this can't become a 5 down the line, conditions look primed IMO and its taking a classic October track as well...reminds me alot of the track Mirinae took last year but probably somewhat stronger...
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#195 Postby KWT » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:24 am

oaba09 wrote:I can't believe I missed this....I was so relaxed because of the lack of activity in the WPAC...


Yeah this one is going to need to be closely watched I think, likely to be a pretty powerful system by the time it reaches the Phillippines from the looks of things...
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Re: WPAC: MEGI - Tropical Storm

#196 Postby Typhoon Hunter » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:24 am

KWT wrote:I see no reason why this can't become a 5 down the line, conditions look primed IMO and its taking a classic October track as well...reminds me alot of the track Mirinae took last year but probably somewhat stronger...


Yeah, Metro Manila needs to keep very alert and I hope PAGASA don't screw this one up. They'll be issuing hourly updates once it nears so I've heard.

The 00z ECMWF run was very disturbing, especially for Hainan - massive hit from Megi. They recently had worst rains in 50 years over there so the last thing they need is a typhoon...
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#197 Postby GCANE » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:26 am

KWT wrote:I see no reason why this can't become a 5 down the line, conditions look primed IMO and its taking a classic October track as well...reminds me alot of the track Mirinae took last year but probably somewhat stronger...


WPAC finally coming alive.

Textbook core.

Looks like a TUTT just to the north.

Most likely once it gets on the SW side of the TUTT it will be a classic WPAC setup with an enhanced poleward outflow channel and super ventilation.

I think a 5 is not out of the question.

Could be very bad situation for Luzon.



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Re: WPAC: MEGI - Tropical Storm

#198 Postby KWT » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:26 am



Yeah eyewall looking increasingly solid on recent images, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see an eye develop over the next 6-9hrs and once that happens Magi could well go to town in favourable conditions.
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#199 Postby RobWESTPACWX » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:32 am

oaba09 wrote:I can't believe I missed this....I was so relaxed because of the lack of activity in the WPAC...



Your not the only one, I been seeing on TFC they haven't even mentioned this storm just yet. That's just sad.
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Re: WPAC: MEGI - Tropical Storm

#200 Postby RobWESTPACWX » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:36 am

Good and bad if you want surface reports, but no Civilian ships in the region..... In case anyone was curios.


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