ATL: EX Tropical Depression FIVE - Models

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#181 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:21 pm

My info on the HWRF was wrong, never mind. Looks like a weak TS into NO area.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#182 Postby Frank P » Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:22 pm

So both the CMC and the GFDL have this thing going towards NOLA.. surprised at the strength with both...
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#183 Postby NWFWatcher » Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:26 pm

Does anyone know how strong the models are making this system 94L? And Ivan I read alot of your post I live in Pensacola as well do you think more a Mississippi land fall or Mobile Bay. Thanks for the info.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#184 Postby ronjon » Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:29 pm

Here's why some of the models are making 94L stronger as it approaches the northern gulf coast. Look at the massive anticyclone right over the top of the system that the 18Z NAM forecasts.

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#185 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:31 pm

NWFWatcher wrote:Does anyone know how strong the models are making this system 94L? And Ivan I read alot of your post I live in Pensacola as well do you think more a Mississippi land fall or Mobile Bay. Thanks for the info.


To soon to be that specific but the central Gulf coast is a good bet. Remember with tropical storms the worst weather will likely be on the east side (dirty side)
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#186 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:37 pm

That'd certainly provide for some interesting results Ronjon if that came off, you wouldn't want a strengthening TS in those conditions heading for landfall, I'd imagine if that occured then something like Danny may not be out of the question...

Alas we will have to wait and see as per normal!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#187 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:58 pm

00z Tropical Models

SHIP is a bit stronger at this run.

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WHXX01 KWBC 100048
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
0048 UTC TUE AUG 10 2010
 
DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.
 
ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR
 
DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL942010) 20100810 0000 UTC
 
        ...00 HRS...   ...12 HRS...   ...24 HRS. ..   ...36 HRS...
        100810  0000   100810  1200   100811  0000   100811  1200
 
         LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON
BAMS    25.7N  82.7W   25.9N  83.6W   26.4N  84.5W   27.1N  85.6W
BAMD    25.7N  82.7W   25.4N  83.9W   25.7N  85.2W   26.4N  86.7W
BAMM    25.7N  82.7W   25.6N  84.0W   25.7N  85.2W   26.3N  86.5W
LBAR    25.7N  82.7W   25.4N  84.1W   25.7N  85.7W   26.0N  87.5W
SHIP        25KTS          29KTS          35KTS          40KTS
DSHP        25KTS          29KTS          35KTS          40KTS
 
        ...48 HRS...   ...72 HRS...   ...96 HRS. ..   ..120 HRS...
        100812  0000   100813  0000   100814  0000   100815  0000
 
         LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON
BAMS    28.1N  86.3W   30.2N  86.5W   32.0N  84.7W   33.2N  82.3W
BAMD    27.5N  88.3W   29.9N  90.6W   32.4N  91.1W   35.2N  88.5W
BAMM    27.3N  87.5W   29.7N  88.5W   31.9N  87.6W   33.5N  84.8W
LBAR    26.6N  89.3W   28.0N  92.6W   29.8N  94.6W   31.4N  94.5W
SHIP        45KTS          52KTS          57KTS          58KTS
DSHP        45KTS          52KTS          32KTS          27KTS
 
         ...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR =  25.7N LONCUR =  82.7W DIRCUR = 230DEG SPDCUR =   3KT
LATM12 =  26.2N LONM12 =  82.3W DIRM12 = 222DEG SPDM12 =   4KT
LATM24 =  27.0N LONM24 =  81.6W
WNDCUR =   25KT RMAXWD =   75NM WNDM12 =   20KT
CENPRS = 1010MB OUTPRS = 1012MB OUTRAD =  150NM SDEPTH =   S
RD34NE =    0NM RD34SE =    0NM RD34SW =    0NM RD34NW =   0NM


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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#188 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:00 pm

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#189 Postby blazess556 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:00 pm

ftp://ftp.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/atcf/stext/ ... _ships.txt

Brings it up to 67 mph this run compared to 48 mph last run.
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#190 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:25 pm

Think the GFDL is too bullish and HWRF to weak. The GFDL ramps it to TS strength tonight and the HWRF is off with the center initialization, too far north!!!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#191 Postby lebron23 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:35 pm

anywhere between port o connor tx and destin needs to watch this
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#192 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:47 pm

Extended 18z Nam

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#193 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:49 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Extended 18z Nam

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Dang, that is Friday, if it isn't ashore until Friday we got problems!
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#194 Postby Stormcenter » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:51 pm

I guess anything (NAM) is possible but I just don't see this
waiting until Friday to come ashore unless it goes a lot further
west. IMO
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#195 Postby lester » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:52 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Extended 18z Nam


HOLY CRAP! Well good thing that's the extended nam :lol:
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#196 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:04 pm

Stormcenter wrote:I guess anything (NAM) is possible but I just don't see this
waiting until Friday to come ashore unless it goes a lot further
west. IMO


I would have said the same earlier today, but then 94L has basically meandered just off the SW coast of Florida all day and if anything looks to be organizing further southward in the convection.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#197 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:08 pm

Canadian shows a very wet system

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#198 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:16 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Canadian shows a very wet system

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And note the date? SATURDAY????
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#199 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:26 pm

Thanks Ivan, thats what i have been searching for. Does it go out another 12-24 hrs? Our mets are currently playing this conservatively giving us only a 30-40% chance of rain through the week.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#200 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:47 pm

00z NAM has this moving very slowly approaching the North Central Gulf coast
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