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#161 Postby Vortex » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:08 pm

GFDL 18Z brings a minimal hurricane to se fl...


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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - Discussion

#162 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:19 pm

Aric, what do you think of this position?

00z Best Track

AL, 96, 2010092800, , BEST, 0, AL, 96, 2010092800, , BEST, 0, 186N, 867W, 25, 1003, DB

ftp://ftp.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/ ... 010.invest
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#163 Postby gatorcane » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:21 pm

Convection is on the increase and it appears it is gradually getting it's act together with the low just off the coast of belize
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#164 Postby Lifesgud2 » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:33 pm

gatorcane wrote:Convection is on the increase and it appears it is gradually getting it's act together with the low just off the coast of belize


I concur..Should be up to 60% in the AM..What do you think Gator?
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#165 Postby Vortex » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:33 pm

gatorcane wrote:Convection is on the increase and it appears it is gradually getting it's act together with the low just off the coast of belize




agree gator...the best models all bring it right over SFL wednesday evening...
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#166 Postby ConvergenceZone » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:36 pm

Vortex wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Convection is on the increase and it appears it is gradually getting it's act together with the low just off the coast of belize




agree gator...the best models all bring it right over SFL wednesday evening...



Wow, from Belize to south Florida in less than 48 hours? This system must be flying!!..I guess it's good for cutting down on the rainfall amounts anyway...
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - Discussion

#167 Postby sunnyday » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:38 pm

76 kts equals how many mph? Also, since S Fl is targeted now this far out, isn't the forecast likely to move somewhere else later? 8-)
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - Discussion

#168 Postby wzrgirl1 » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:38 pm

I feel for the NHC because you can't warn people with no storm but at the same time, it could ramp up quickly leaving residents with no time to prepare. This one is tough. I guess that is why they get paid the big bucks.
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#169 Postby mf_dolphin » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:39 pm

sunnyday wrote:76 kts equals how many mph? Also, since S Fl is targeted now this far out, isn't the forecast likely to move somewhere else later? 8-)


87.4 MPH
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - Discussion

#170 Postby ObsessedMiami » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:40 pm

If it follows the models, will they bother with TS Warnings/Hurricane Warnings for SFL? I mean I know they will if it warrants it but you won't see EOC activation/closures, will you? Seems like it is happening in a quick timeframe.

EDIT: Sorry wzrgirl1, I didn't see your very similar post above.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - Discussion

#171 Postby Evil Jeremy » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:41 pm

ObsessedMiami wrote:If it follows the models, will they bother with TS Warnings/Hurricane Warnings for SFL?


Oh defiantly. TS watches/warnings would likely come with the first advisory.
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#172 Postby Florida1118 » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:42 pm

You have to note how they say:
"OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL OR A SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS."
Is there anyway to tell on the models if a system is sub. or not?
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - Discussion

#173 Postby SunnyThoughts » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:44 pm

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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - Discussion

#174 Postby Vortex » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:44 pm

ObsessedMiami wrote:If it follows the models, will they bother with TS Warnings/Hurricane Warnings for SFL? I mean I know they will if it warrants it but you won't see EOC activation/closures, will you? Seems like it is happening in a quick timeframe.



My guess tropical storm warnings at 11am tomorrow...from the keys North to Jupiter...If the models continue to indicate a potential hurricane and the storm is on a steady strengthening trend tomorrow then we might see hurricane warnings for the se coast and keys...Tropical storm warnings look a good bet...hurricane warnings not likely but possible...
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - Discussion

#175 Postby Vortex » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:45 pm

Florida1118 wrote:You have to note how they say:
"OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL OR A SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS."
Is there anyway to tell on the models if a system is sub. or not?



no doubt tropical to start...
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#176 Postby artist » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:45 pm

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#177 Postby Florida1118 » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:46 pm

wzrgirl1 wrote:I feel for the NHC because you can't warn people with no storm but at the same time, it could ramp up quickly leaving residents with no time to prepare. This one is tough. I guess that is why they get paid the big bucks.

Well its not like it can ramp up to a major like Karl W/ the conditions N of Cuba. But they can Issue Flood Watches a day or so early, as well as HWO...So as long as they have SOMETHING mentioning "Hey, be aware a TC might form W/ flooding rain" or "Monitor the NHC for..." thats pretty good info to look out.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - Discussion

#178 Postby hurricaneCW » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:47 pm

Where's the floater for this invest?
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - Discussion

#179 Postby captain east » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:48 pm

If this does cross over SE Florida it's not suppose to be there very long since its getting sucked NE so fast right?
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - Discussion

#180 Postby Evil Jeremy » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:49 pm

SunnyThoughts wrote:http://www.ghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/GOES001520102717VJqex.jpg

Structure still improving. Looking very circular with some banding. All this needs is a spark near the LLC, or whatever circulation there is near Belize.
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