ATL: Ex-Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

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#1381 Postby Nimbus » Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:52 pm

Looks like It slowed its forward speed a little there may be some ridging between Danielle and that ULL that is dropping south to the NE.
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#1382 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:07 pm

Looks to me like it may just be a smidge right of the NHC forecast point but not really by a big amount, so it may just wobble back to match the NHC expected point later on.
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#1383 Postby ConvergenceZone » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:11 pm

Does Bermuda have a radar site? Just asking because Danielle may get close enough to Bermuda to pick up some feeder bands on radar once it gets close enough
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#1384 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:15 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:Does Bermuda have a radar site? Just asking because Danielle may get close enough to Bermuda to pick up some feeder bands on radar once it gets close enough
http://www.weather.bm/radar.asp
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#1385 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:19 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:Does Bermuda have a radar site? Just asking because Danielle may get close enough to Bermuda to pick up some feeder bands on radar once it gets close enough


I suspect given the current expected track we'll see more then jsut feeder bands, we'll probably be able to see the inner core at least of one side of the system.

Really a direct hit on Bermuda is pure luck, its a very hard call for anyone to make no matter how good they are more then 24hrs out, but the threat is there.
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#1386 Postby ConvergenceZone » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:20 pm

Chris_in_Tampa wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:Does Bermuda have a radar site? Just asking because Danielle may get close enough to Bermuda to pick up some feeder bands on radar once it gets close enough
http://www.weather.bm/radar.asp



Thanks for the radar link. I'll bookmark that just in case....
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#1387 Postby ConvergenceZone » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:25 pm

Here's the Bermuda Discussion regarding Danielle taken from
http://www.weather.bm/ForecastDiscussion.asp

"LONG TERM FORECAST
All models are in agreement with the movement of Danielle pretty
well through Saturday, then diverge significantly on Sunday. GFS
is the most threatening, bringing the storm just over 100nm to our
east Sunday afternoon. UKMO is very similar on timing, but has the
storm over 200nm away and slightly weaker as well. CMC is more in
line with the UKMO, and ECMWF is the outlier, moving the system faster,
making it’s CPA early Sunday, and also making the storm much more
intense with a central pressure 20mb deeper than other models. As
a result, while confidence in the trend to increasing northeast winds
and building southeast swells with the storm passing to our east
on Sunday is high, forecasting just how strong the winds/seas will
get Sunday has a much lower confidence at this time. Have forecast
for a middle ground between GFS and UKMO for Sunday, with strong
to gale force winds and gale force gusts, with seas rising to high
with southeast to easterly swells, particularly to the south and
east of the island. A Tropical Storm Warning will likely be required
for Sunday."
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#1388 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:31 pm

Yeah I think a TS warning is quite likely with this one providing current trends continue with this one in terms of overall motion.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1389 Postby hurricaneCW » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:35 pm

It looks like she's heading N/NNW right now, making it even less likely to impact Bermuda in any way, it's still east of 55W. This could be important regarding the track of Earl if it lifts out much earlier than expected.
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#1390 Postby supercane » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:42 pm

Danielle may have finally closed off an eyewall again.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1391 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:45 pm

hurricaneCW wrote:It looks like she's heading N/NNW right now, making it even less likely to impact Bermuda in any way, it's still east of 55W. This could be important regarding the track of Earl if it lifts out much earlier than expected.


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Looks more NW or NNW. Definitely not North.
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#1392 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:45 pm

Looks like Danielle can't quite decide whether to have a tight inner eyewall there or a larger eye supercane.
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#1393 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:47 pm

I'd say a Hurricane Watch would be needed first for Bermuda, probably sometime Friday.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1394 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:53 pm

00z Best Track

AL, 06, 2010082600, , BEST, 0, 220N, 535W, 80, 978, HU


Up to 80kts.
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#1395 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:54 pm

Seems reasonable; with current trends it may be back at Cat 2 by advisory time.
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#1396 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:30 pm

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Re: ATL: Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1397 Postby cpdaman » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:39 pm

OK so danielle is goin pretty much north right now ...WHY? although it looks like she slowed down alot....(6-10mph) last couple hours is my guess

sorry for the caps...but it's kinda important.....is it the ULL to her SW...(is there one) that she has to go around.(thus move north )...and then she will resume her NW or even WNW movement? b/c its not like she is accelerating north and escaping so...
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Re: ATL: Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1398 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:46 pm

00z Best Track Updated

AL, 06, 2010082600, , BEST, 0, 220N, 536W, 85, 975, HU

ftp://ftp.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/ ... 010.invest


They updated upwards from 80kts to 85kts cat 2 at 00z.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1399 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:52 pm

Ok let's assume Danielle takes the NW track towards the CONUS, what happens to Earl? If that were to happen Earl would be almost due south with Danielle chugging slowly towards the CONUS??? Does Earl recurve east of Danielle, continue moving towards Danielle, or would that force Earl more S and W? I think the NE recurve solution for Danielle is more likely IMO.
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#1400 Postby supercane » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:56 pm

Perhaps an example of an upper level low producing "good" shear by providing a poleward outflow channel.
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