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#901 Postby HouTXmetro » Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:56 pm

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HouTXmetro wrote:What are the chances of witnessing Fujiwhara with these two storms?


Its possible if they get a little closer and stronger. They need to be about 15 degrees apart or closer...and right now they are about that distance from each other.

This is one reason I have been discussing a little further south track with our customers. I think it will eventually come into play. Maybe only a little...but enough to keep TD2 on track towards the islands.


If I understand Fujiwhara correct TD2 would somewhat slow while sorta pulling 90L on a more Southern track?
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#902 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:58 pm

an alternative scenario would be for this large system to absorb the smaller weaker TD 2
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#903 Postby HouTXmetro » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:00 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:an alternative scenario would be for this large system to absorb the smaller weaker TD 2


Right, I'm not sure which scenario is more likely.
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#904 Postby ROCK » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:01 pm

Air Force Met wrote:
HouTXmetro wrote:What are the chances of witnessing Fujiwhara with these two storms?


Its possible if they get a little closer and stronger. They need to be about 15 degrees apart or closer...and right now they are about that distance from each other.

This is one reason I have been discussing a little further south track with our customers. I think it will eventually come into play. Maybe only a little...but enough to keep TD2 on track towards the islands.


I was thinking further west myself just by looking at the recent guidance....The GFS is all but abandoning the recurve option. The EURO is the only hold out. I bet it changes its tune tonight.

BTW- Nice to see you around AFM....been since IKE....seems a long time ago...
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#905 Postby wxman57 » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:03 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:an alternative scenario would be for this large system to absorb the smaller weaker TD 2


Or the outflow from the developing larger storm could disrupt the outflow from TD 2 and cause weakening.
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L

#906 Postby Typhoon_Willie » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:05 pm

From north to south I would say it is about the size of the state of Florida.
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#907 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:05 pm

had I have had to give a forecast tonight, it would have been 95KT for Leewards and 105 in Carib
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#908 Postby Evil Jeremy » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:09 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:had I have had to give a forecast tonight, it would have been 95KT for Leewards and 105 in Carib


What would of your track been like? Where do you see this in 5 days?
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L

#909 Postby sponger » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:10 pm

Its good to hear from everyone! Like old friends coming together to give there 2 cents worth.
STK has the best 2 cents around. Lets put on our game face and see what the week brings us.
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#910 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:11 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:an alternative scenario would be for this large system to absorb the smaller weaker TD 2


Or the outflow from the developing larger storm could disrupt the outflow from TD 2 and cause weakening.


Think the outflow idea is more possible than absorption. The systems are 900 miles apart...and I don't see 90L in any hurry to catch up to #2.

They may be too far apart even for the outflow to be inhibitive.
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L

#911 Postby wzrgirl1 » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:35 pm

An interesting 7-10 days coming to say the least. I have a feeling come Tuesday or Wednesday that this board will be lighting up. Hopefully both storms will dissipate but doubtful.
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#912 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:42 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:had I have had to give a forecast tonight, it would have been 95KT for Leewards and 105 in Carib


What would of your track been like? Where do you see this in 5 days?


read my post again. I gave the track
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L

#913 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:49 pm

Why did NHC did not classified this as a TD at 11 PM? It looks very impressive with convection on top of the center.

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#914 Postby Scorpion » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:50 pm

Seriously night and day compared to earlier.
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#915 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:51 pm

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I don't get the NHC hesitation on this one. This should be a TD right now. At this point its likely to organize with each passing hour and the model support is very, very consistent --- just upgrade it now and show the cone, that way those in those land areas can see the general projected path and start to at least think about going over preparation plans. Even if it does not strike, better safe than sorry. I expect Ana by tomorrow night and at the latest Sunday here. No doubt those in the Leewards, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin islands need to be checking their supplies this weekend.
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L

#916 Postby boca » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:01 pm

90L should of been upgraded it looks better by the hour I think by 5am well have TD 3.

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Re: ATL: Invest 90L Models

#917 Postby ROCK » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:01 pm

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#918 Postby wzrgirl1 » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:02 pm

With ex TD-2 in a possible regeneration stage, I am confused as to which storm I should be paying closer attention to. The models are suggesting 90L will be larger and stronger but ex TD-2 is closer. I guess it would be a good idea to pay attention to both. To think that a week ago we were bored.
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#919 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:05 pm

gatorcane wrote:
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I don't get the NHC hesitation on this one. This should be a TD right now. At this point its likely to organize with each passing hour and the model support is very, very consistent --- just upgrade it now and show the cone, that way those in those land areas can see the general projected path and start to at least think about going over preparation plans. Even if it does not strike, better safe than sorry. I expect Ana by tomorrow night and at the latest Sunday here. No doubt those in the Leewards, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin islands need to be checking their supplies this weekend.


See the thread on Td#2 as to who is working the desk...and you will have your answer.
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#920 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:06 pm

:uarrow: Already read through that thread (Avila right)?
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