EPAC: TROPICAL DEPRESSION JIMENA (13E)

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#421 Postby baitism » Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:08 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:Could this shoot up the Gulf of California and impact the US Southwest heavily?


It could impact the US SW with some heavy rain and flooding. But, it will not be a wind event by then.
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#422 Postby btangy » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:03 pm

12Z ECMWF ensemble and operational run is right in line with the consensus forecast showing landfall less than 36 hours from now around the Isla Santa Margarita. Track is high confidence. Considerable impact to Cabo San Lucas and La Paz, especially if there is any deviation to the right of the forecast track.
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Re: EPAC: HURRICANE JIMENA (13E)

#423 Postby Cyclenall » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:29 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Post season upgrade to cat 5.


It's pretty much certain, perhaps on 2 occasions. I believe it was Cat 5 for a while yesterday as well. I'm sure some at the NHC wanted to bump this up to 140 kt for the advisory, but it is tough to break that psychological barrier.

I agree, Saturday I think it was around 145-150 knots at 13:30 UTC and a weak category 5 hurricane yesterday around 23:00 UTC (140 knots). I was glad to see the NHC state it could have been one today, I feel confident that a post-season upgrade will happen.

30% of a category 5 on the wind speed probability table in the next 12 hours...that's impressive. It must be because of the forecast for 135 knots still.
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#424 Postby fasterdisaster » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:31 pm

baitism wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:Could this shoot up the Gulf of California and impact the US Southwest heavily?


It could impact the US SW with some heavy rain and flooding. But, it will not be a wind event by then.


Actually, San Diego is in the cone. It's possible it could hit there as a Category 1. Not likely by any means but not out of the realm of possibility.
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#425 Postby fasterdisaster » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:31 pm

So what are Jimena's chances of being retired?
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#426 Postby RL3AO » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:34 pm

fasterdisaster wrote:
baitism wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:Could this shoot up the Gulf of California and impact the US Southwest heavily?


It could impact the US SW with some heavy rain and flooding. But, it will not be a wind event by then.


Actually, San Diego is in the cone. It's possible it could hit there as a Category 1. Not likely by any means but not out of the realm of possibility.


A hurricane would never survive to San Diego. The water is just too cold.
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#427 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:44 pm

you'd need an unusually strong trough to get a cane into California

or the el nino of 1997 wher ethe 80F isotherm extended most of the way up the Baja
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#428 Postby Cyclenall » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:47 pm

fasterdisaster wrote:So what are Jimena's chances of being retired?

The storm hasn't hit yet. You also can't count on this storm being retired for intensity only because we know what happened with Emily from 2005.
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#429 Postby fasterdisaster » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:11 am

RL3AO wrote:A hurricane would never survive to San Diego. The water is just too cold.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1858_San_Diego_Hurricane

Never say never.
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#430 Postby RL3AO » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:18 am

Fine, rarely.
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#431 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:28 am

a cat 3 hitting the WC of Mexico usually is NOT retired

John and Lane were not retired in 2006. There have been many other cat 3s not retired that have struck Mexico
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Re: EPAC: HURRICANE JIMENA (13E)

#432 Postby somethingfunny » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:39 am

Also don't forget whose name is coming up after Kevin. It's very uncommon to see a retirement in the EPAC. But we'll have to see what happens with Jimena.
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Re: EPAC: HURRICANE JIMENA (13E)

#433 Postby fasterdisaster » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:31 am

somethingfunny wrote:Also don't forget whose name is coming up after Kevin. It's very uncommon to see a retirement in the EPAC. But we'll have to see what happens with Jimena.


Linda didn't hit land though (other than Socorro Island)
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#434 Postby bob rulz » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:42 am

fasterdisaster wrote:
RL3AO wrote:A hurricane would never survive to San Diego. The water is just too cold.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1858_San_Diego_Hurricane

Never say never.


There is no chance (Repeat: NO CHANCE) that a hurricane could survive in the current conditions all the way north to the Channel Islands or even San Diego. You would have to have an exceptionally powerful El Nino.
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#435 Postby bob rulz » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:48 am

On another note, this has the potential to be one of the most powerful hurricanes ever to make landfall in Baja California. I'm sure the residents there are taking this very seriously, and I hope so too, for their sake.
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#436 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:17 am

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Surprised they kept the intensity at 155 mph because it looks a lot less organized
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#437 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:19 am

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Pinhole eye no more
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#438 Postby Chacor » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:27 am

Recon pass is scheduled for 1500z.
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#439 Postby Chacor » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:27 am

URNT15 KNHC 011025
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102230 2938N 09349W 3923 07709 0388 -195 -399 307014 015 999 999 03
102300 2938N 09352W 3923 07708 0387 -191 -394 311017 018 999 999 03
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102400 2939N 09357W 3923 07709 0388 -195 -370 307014 014 999 999 03
102430 2939N 09400W 3923 07709 0389 -195 -415 304013 013 999 999 03
102500 2939N 09403W 3923 07710 0390 -195 -428 303013 013 999 999 03
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#440 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:19 am

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Jimena could put an end to the fires in California
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