ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION ANA (02L)

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#301 Postby jinftl » Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:39 pm

Yep....and development immediately off the coast of africa is certainly not a requirement for a cape verde system to become infamous...not saying that 99L is destined for the history books...but what it, and other systems to follow, do once they head further west may in fact be their lasting impression

What 99L has not done...and this is important...is gone 'poof' like many systems before it have once over the atlantic after emerging from africa.

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jinftl wrote:as long as it keeps some convection...but doesn't develop much....it will gain longitude....like we always say on here, the storms that develop in the far eastern atlantic are usually 'fish', the ones that hold together but don't develop signifcantly until further west are often the most troublesome storms.

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As long it keeps producing some convection, 99L will be alive.

It is still such a pretty thing...so wild. Have to admit-it is beyond us to tell it what to do or where to go-Nature Rules
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Re: ATL : INVEST 99L

#302 Postby HouTXmetro » Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:40 pm

The chances of this being a fish storm is still very high?
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Re: ATL : INVEST 99L

#303 Postby jinftl » Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:53 pm

probably the bigger question at this point is whether this will actually develop....the models that develop it quicker seem to turn it north quicker. Can't have a fish storm if there is no storm there in the first place.

The latest model runs for 99L posted in the models thread run the gamut...with the system approaching 20N as far east as 40W or as far west as 65W....that is a world of differnece in terms of impacts to the islands and potentially points west


HouTXmetro wrote:The chances of this being a fish storm is still very high?
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Re: ATL: Invest 99L Models

#304 Postby jinftl » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:00 pm

Quite a spread in latest model runs for track of 99L

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#305 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:23 pm

So it begins !!! lol

TD by 8 Am ...

code red probably 2 am
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#306 Postby Annie Oakley » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:32 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:So it begins !!! lol

TD by 8 Am ...

code red probably 2 am

I remember Aric Dunne as a soldier during Hurricane Ike-up all night-posting like a survivor- thank you Eric! Texas salutes you.
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#307 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:39 pm

Annie Oakley wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:So it begins !!! lol

TD by 8 Am ...

code red probably 2 am

I remember Aric Dunne as a soldier during Hurricane Ike-up all night-posting like a survivor- thank you Eric! Texas salutes you.


hehe.. Thanks.. Thats my job :)

but whats up with the spelling of my name .. lol :P
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#308 Postby brunota2003 » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:41 pm

I think the reason the NHC seems to pull the trigger quicker on west Atlantic storms than East Atlantic is for one, we have a lot more surface obs (plus recon flights) out here in the West than there is in the East.

Comparing how they react to a system in the GOM vs. the East Atlantic is like comparing Apples and Oranges. Systems tend to have a lot more heat content and better conditions in the Carr/GOM than they do out by the Cape Verde Islands, thus more systems are able to get over the "hump" and actually form, giving the illusion the NHC is pulling the trigger quicker.

Look back and see how many storms form in the Carr/GOM versus way out in the middle of the ocean...is it proximity to land that makes the call? Or the fact we have better data?
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#309 Postby Annie Oakley » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:00 am

Sorry-Dunn-Dunne-it's all Irish to me- the main thing is that you are a Scientist of course but I do understand the Dunn thing if you have a paper pending=I just thank you for being here always and being brilliant.......


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Annie Oakley wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:So it begins !!! lol

TD by 8 Am ...

code red probably 2 am

I remember Aric Dunne as a soldier during Hurricane Ike-up all night-posting like a survivor- thank you Eric! Texas salutes you.


hehe.. Thanks.. Thats my job :)

but whats up with the spelling of my name .. lol :P
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Re: ATL : INVEST 99L

#310 Postby David in FL » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:03 am

Hello guys. I am new here and am loving this site and all the info. I just finished my second weather class in school, but only basics so far. Trying to keep up with the abb. I just moved to Jacksonville from TN and have never experienced a tropical storm. I am more of a tornado person. Been through enough of them. F4 tore up almost half my town on April 10th this year. It was horrible. Came about 150 yards from my house and killed a mother and baby up the road. It was very very very sad. I have always been interested in weather. Glad to be here. Been watching this and the other thread about 99. I have a couple questions. What is 99l, ulc, and llc? Also does anyone have any opinions on the little low forming in the carib. Thanks
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#311 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:05 am

Annie Oakley wrote:Sorry-Dunn-Dunne-it's all Irish to me- the main thing is that you are a Scientist of course but I do understand the Dunn thing if you have a paper pending=I just thank you for being here always and being brilliant.......


Aric Dunn wrote:]
Aric Dunn wrote:So it begins !!! lol

TD by 8 Am ...

code red probably 2 am

I remember Aric Dunne as a soldier during Hurricane Ike-up all night-posting like a survivor- thank you Eric! Texas salutes you.


hehe.. Thanks.. Thats my job :)

but whats up with the spelling of my name .. lol :P
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well Thank you :) but brilliant maybe a little to much.. i Just love weather as does everyone else on here :)
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Re: ATL : INVEST 99L

#312 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:10 am

David in FL wrote:Hello guys. I am new here and am loving this site and all the info. I just finished my second weather class in school, but only basics so far. Trying to keep up with the abb. I just moved to Jacksonville from TN and have never experienced a tropical storm. I am more of a tornado person. Been through enough of them. F4 tore up almost half my town on April 10th this year. It was horrible. Came about 150 yards from my house and killed a mother and baby up the road. It was very very very sad. I have always been interested in weather. Glad to be here. Been watching this and the other thread about 99. I have a couple questions. What is 99l, ulc, and llc? Also does anyone have any opinions on the little low forming in the carib. Thanks


well nice to meet you .. :cheesy:

99L is a Invest. basically its a official area of disturbed weather in the tropics that meets a certain criteria to be given a designation. starting from 90L up through 99L, this happens every year throughout the year and is what happens before the public is informed of a tropical depression or storm. ULC means Upper Level Circulation and LLC means Low level circulation. upper level being above about 400 mb and low level being roughly 825mb or lower.
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#313 Postby JonathanBelles » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:14 am

David in FL wrote:Hello guys. I am new here and am loving this site and all the info. I just finished my second weather class in school, but only basics so far. Trying to keep up with the abb. I just moved to Jacksonville from TN and have never experienced a tropical storm. I am more of a tornado person. Been through enough of them. F4 tore up almost half my town on April 10th this year. It was horrible. Came about 150 yards from my house and killed a mother and baby up the road. It was very very very sad. I have always been interested in weather. Glad to be here. Been watching this and the other thread about 99. I have a couple questions. What is 99l, ulc, and llc? Also does anyone have any opinions on the little low forming in the carib. Thanks


99L is an INVESTigation designated by the National Hurricane Center. It is basically an area of storms that could become a Tropical Depression in the next few days.

ULC: Upper Level Center
LLC: Lower Level Center.
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#314 Postby Annie Oakley » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:17 am

Eric Dunn-keep doing what you do and you will be an American Hero-like Sanibel and Hurikan and RL3?? and Sanibel etc -you are all the scientists of now and the future...we love all of you and we need you.....keep it up. We are amazed at your dedication level during storms -I remember you and others last year-amazing......


Aric Dunn wrote:
Annie Oakley wrote:Sorry-Dunn-Dunne-it's all Irish to me- the main thing is that you are a Scientist of course but I do understand the Dunn thing if you have a paper pending=I just thank you for being here always and being brilliant.......



hehe.. Thanks.. Thats my job :)

but whats up with the spelling of my name .. lol :P



well Thank you :) but brilliant maybe a little to much.. i Just love weather as does everyone else on here :)[/quote]
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#315 Postby Annie Oakley » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:24 am

Aric Dunn not only is one brilliant scientist-he is a humanitarian as well-last year he was on this board 24/7 when Ike hit-this guy is a soldier-I will never forget him. (Bow down).
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Re: ATL : INVEST 99L

#316 Postby Sanibel » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:27 am

99 still there.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 99L

#317 Postby RL3AO » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:27 am

Looking good. I'm thinking red at 2am and maybe (probably?) a depression at 8am.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 99L

#318 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:30 am

David in FL wrote:Hello guys. I am new here and am loving this site and all the info. I just finished my second weather class in school, but only basics so far. Trying to keep up with the abb. I just moved to Jacksonville from TN and have never experienced a tropical storm. I am more of a tornado person. Been through enough of them. F4 tore up almost half my town on April 10th this year. It was horrible. Came about 150 yards from my house and killed a mother and baby up the road. It was very very very sad. I have always been interested in weather. Glad to be here. Been watching this and the other thread about 99. I have a couple questions. What is 99l, ulc, and llc? Also does anyone have any opinions on the little low forming in the carib. Thanks


Hey whatsup! I'm new here to. The reason why I LOVE these forums, is because even the professionals talk with you and explain things, without being flamed. Ive just turned 16, and I have always considered meteorology as my future. Been here 3-4 days and I've learned ALOT. Everyone is nice. Pretty awesome community.

Back on topic. Looks like everyone has explained to you. I cant wait the for the 1st Atlantic storm. It doesn't seem like a season without a storm... But I'm happy with the EPAC. I live in Oahu, and it had entertained me well.
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#319 Postby Annie Oakley » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:31 am

Hurakan posts the best pics-he must be asleep
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Re: ATL : INVEST 99L

#320 Postby RL3AO » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:38 am

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 AM EDT TUE AUG 11 2009

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE LOCATED A COUPLE HUNDRED MILES WEST
OF THE SOUTHERN CAPE VERDE ISLANDS IS MOVING WESTWARD AT 10 TO 15
MPH. THE ASSOCIATED SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY HAS INCREASED
SOMEWHAT AND THIS SYSTEM HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME A TROPICAL
DEPRESSION DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO. THERE IS A MEDIUM CHANCE...
30 TO 50 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE
DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.


A TROPICAL WAVE LOCATED ABOUT 600 MILES EAST OF THE LESSER ANTILLES
IS PRODUCING DISORGANIZED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS. ANY
DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM IS LIKELY TO BE SLOW AS IT MOVES
WESTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...LESS THAN 30
PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

A SMALL AREA OF LOW PRESSURE ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE IS
PRODUCING DISORGANIZED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS NEAR THE WINDWARD
ISLANDS. DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM...IF ANY...IS EXPECTED TO BE
SLOW TO OCCUR AS IT MOVES WESTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH OVER THE
SOUTHEASTERN CARIBBEAN SEA DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. THERE
IS A LOW CHANCE...LESS THAN 30 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A
TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER PASCH

Like I said. Code orange. :D
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