ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ERIKA - Computer Models

#2621 Postby wxman57 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:19 pm

If you take out the garbage "models" like cliper, lbar, BAMs, and the extrapolate track, there's amazing model agreement with Erika. The outliers are the HWRF, which always seems to be way right of all the other models, the GFDL, which is also way right of the other models, and the GFS, which doesn't see Erika well, apparently.

Can't rule out an East U.S. Coast hit, but I wouldn't be making comparisons to Andrew or Hugo at this point. There isn't anything to suggest a strong ridge building north of Erika beyond 5 days - yet.

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#2622 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:19 pm

AdamFirst wrote:Is RECON going in tonight anytime?


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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ERIKA (06L)

#2623 Postby marciacubed » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:19 pm

She is a huge storm. She looks the size of Fl :double:
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#2624 Postby UpTheCreek » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:21 pm

Here I was, just enjoying the storm....but this is an onimous change of events! Are we looking at early next week should some of these models pan out?
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ERIKA - Computer Models

#2625 Postby mf_dolphin » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:23 pm

wxman57 wrote:If you take out the garbage "models" like cliper, lbar, BAMs, and the extrapolate track, there's amazing model agreement with Erika. The outliers are the HWRF, which always seems to be way right of all the other models, the GFDL, which is also way right of the other models, and the GFS, which doesn't see Erika well, apparently.

Can't rule out an East U.S. Coast hit, but I wouldn't be making comparisons to Andrew or Hugo at this point. There isn't anything to suggest a strong ridge building north of Erika beyond 5 days - yet.

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Did you have to use the word YET? ;-)
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ERIKA - Computer Models

#2626 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:24 pm

wxman57 wrote:If you take out the garbage "models" like cliper, lbar, BAMs, and the extrapolate track, there's amazing model agreement with Erika. The outliers are the HWRF, which always seems to be way right of all the other models, the GFDL, which is also way right of the other models, and the GFS, which doesn't see Erika well, apparently.

Can't rule out an East U.S. Coast hit, but I wouldn't be making comparisons to Andrew or Hugo at this point. There isn't anything to suggest a strong ridge building north of Erika beyond 5 days - yet.

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Yeah wxman, there was good agreement with Ike as well to turn east of Florida. The trough is not very strong and there is evidence of a ridge building back in after the weakness lifts out, not saying it will happen, but I'm always looking for every scenario
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ERIKA (06L)

#2627 Postby tailgater » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:25 pm

Still doesn't look stacked, LLC on NW edge.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-ir2.html
No banding showing up yet but as I said before this storm could easily deepen quickly with CAT 2 possible by this time tomorrow. IHMAO
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#2628 Postby hurricanetrack » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:25 pm

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/loop-avn.html

It makes all the waiting and the negative Nancy comments over the last few days so worth while. Now, on to round two....
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ERIKA - Computer Models

#2629 Postby otowntiger » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:26 pm

wxman57 wrote:If you take out the garbage "models" like cliper, lbar, BAMs, and the extrapolate track, there's amazing model agreement with Erika. The outliers are the HWRF, which always seems to be way right of all the other models, the GFDL, which is also way right of the other models, and the GFS, which doesn't see Erika well, apparently.

Can't rule out an East U.S. Coast hit, but I wouldn't be making comparisons to Andrew or Hugo at this point. There isn't anything to suggest a strong ridge building north of Erika beyond 5 days - yet.

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But you've got to admit that there does seem to have been trend to the west even with all those models that are in such good agreement at this time, right?
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ERIKA - Computer Models

#2630 Postby Evil Jeremy » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:26 pm

AdamFirst wrote:
wzrgirl1 wrote:which models?


Pretty much all of them. :P


To sum up the latest model run, the 00z BAM's have shifted significantly north (but they don't really count in the first place lol). The 00z CMC is virtually identically to the 18z run, which is very close to the center of the NHC cone. the 18z GFDL and HWRF have shifted south and west, and the 18z NOGAPS seems to be more north but more west than the previous run. The 18z GFS is the southern outlier, taking it into the (south part of the) Northern Bahamas. Overall, the TVCN, which represents the average of all the models above combined, has shifted a little south and west.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ERIKA (06L)

#2631 Postby expat2carib » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:26 pm

OURAGAN wrote:The shear is very low to the south of it and slight stronger to it's north, may be it's why the cloud mass is expanding southward and westward


Sounds logical to me. My concern is what will be the impact in the next 24 hours for the islands west of her. Any ideas?
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#2632 Postby Evil Jeremy » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:27 pm

I think we will see a nice wind field expansion at the 11 PM advisory.
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#2633 Postby curtadams » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:35 pm

Why are the floaters running 3 hours behind? They were fine this morning.
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#2634 Postby lonelymike » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:36 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:I said long ago just after it came off Africa that I had a feeling about this one for the NE Carib Islands and the CONUS!



Uh-huh :)
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#2635 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:36 pm

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#2636 Postby bahamaswx » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:37 pm

Could be a fairly significant rain event in the islands at this rate. Getting pretty close.
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#2637 Postby otowntiger » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:37 pm

hurricanetrack wrote:http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/loop-avn.html

It makes all the waiting and the negative Nancy comments over the last few days so worth while. Now, on to round two....
That is quite a blow up. But you've gotta admit this thing has been as fickle as they come over the last 5-6 days. It kept toying with us with a big blow up, then itd whimp out. Even Derek Orrt was saying this morning that the fat lady was about to sing when he noted that it had just spit out 4 outflow boundaries. So you can't convince me that you so sure this intensification would happen just 12 hours ago. By the way, since Erica has been so unpredictable who's to say she won't be getting sheared apart and significantly diminish tomorrow?
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#2638 Postby otowntiger » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:39 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Image

That's funny! Look at poor little ole Danny. He looks like he was the "special one" in the family with serious "developmental" issues. :P Pun intended.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ERIKA - Computer Models

#2639 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:43 pm

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#2640 Postby O Town » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:43 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: Good one ! :uarrow:
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