EPAC : TROPICAL DEPRESSION RICK (20E)

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Re: EPAC : HURRICANE RICK (20E)=8 PM PDT Advisory=180 mph

#261 Postby ozonepete » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:01 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:

With its windfield and structure, this is certainly not headed to Wilma levels pressure-wise.


Could not agree more. Could certainly get below 900mb, but nowhere near Wilma.
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Re: EPAC : HURRICANE RICK (20E)=8 PM PDT Advisory=180 mph

#262 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:03 pm

ozonepete wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:

With its windfield and structure, this is certainly not headed to Wilma levels pressure-wise.


Could not agree more. Could certainly get below 900mb, but nowhere near Wilma.


882mb would translate to about 175-180 kt in the environment Rick is in. That would be a world record for winds.
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Re: EPAC : HURRICANE RICK (20E)=8 PM PDT Advisory=180 mph

#263 Postby Ptarmigan » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:04 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
882mb would translate to about 175-180 kt in the environment Rick is in. That would be a world record for winds.


I think Rick will have a pressure of 898 mb at most. Also, Rick is about average size and the ambient pressure is higher. 882 mb in the WPAC would be around 135 to 145 knots.
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Re: EPAC : HURRICANE RICK (20E)=8 PM PDT Advisory=180 mph

#264 Postby bombarderoazul » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:05 pm

Amazing! a rare epac monster. Does this mean, that rick is officially the strongest cyclone so far this year in the entire world? :eek:
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Re: EPAC : HURRICANE RICK (20E)=8 PM PDT Advisory=180 mph

#265 Postby MGC » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:06 pm

Really no need to send recon in.....why risk the crew's lives? I would task the gulfstream though. Get a good look at the upper enviroment so landfall could be better pinpointed. Amazing hurricane, glad I don't have to wake up tomorrow and pack and run like I did for Katrina.....MGC
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Re: EPAC : HURRICANE RICK (20E)=8 PM PDT Advisory=180 mph

#266 Postby Ptarmigan » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:07 pm

bombarderoazul wrote:Amazing! a rare epac monster. Does this mean, that rick is officially the strongest cyclone so far this year in the entire world? :eek:


Looks like it.
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Re: EPAC : HURRICANE RICK (20E)=8 PM PDT Advisory=180 mph

#267 Postby Macrocane » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:07 pm

WOW! Beautiful! I wonder if it will be able to beat Linda's record, I think it will, if an EWRC doesn't occur. By the way Rick is now stronger than Melor thus the strongest tropical cyclone of the year.
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Re: EPAC : HURRICANE RICK (20E)=8 PM PDT Advisory=180 mph

#268 Postby Ptarmigan » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:08 pm

Macrocane wrote:WOW! Beautiful! I wonder if it will be able to beat Linda's record, I think it will, if an EWRC doesn't occur. By the way Rick is now stronger than Melor thus the strongest tropical cyclone of the year.


I saw a prediction from NHC that has Rick with 185 mph winds. That would beat Linda.
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Re: EPAC : HURRICANE RICK (20E)=8 PM PDT Advisory=180 mph

#269 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:15 pm

Ptarmigan wrote:
Macrocane wrote:WOW! Beautiful! I wonder if it will be able to beat Linda's record, I think it will, if an EWRC doesn't occur. By the way Rick is now stronger than Melor thus the strongest tropical cyclone of the year.


I saw a prediction from NHC that has Rick with 185 mph winds. That would beat Linda.


Actually, that would tie Linda. What was the windfield of Linda though?
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Re: EPAC : HURRICANE RICK (20E)=8 PM PDT Advisory=180 mph

#270 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:17 pm

MGC wrote:Really no need to send recon in.....why risk the crew's lives? I would task the gulfstream though. Get a good look at the upper enviroment so landfall could be better pinpointed. Amazing hurricane, glad I don't have to wake up tomorrow and pack and run like I did for Katrina.....MGC


If this was in the Gulf of Mexico, there would be serious panic setting in right now.
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Re: EPAC : HURRICANE RICK (20E)=8 PM PDT Advisory=180 mph

#271 Postby Weather Watcher » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:31 pm

I am glad it is not in the Gulf!!
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#272 Postby Squarethecircle » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:42 pm

ADT still inching upwards:

CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
7.5 / 908.8mb/155.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
(3hr avg)
7.5 7.7 7.7

Latitude bias adjustment to MSLP : +2.8mb

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 23 km

Center Temp : +18.9C Cloud Region Temp : -77.6C
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#273 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:46 pm

Squarethecircle wrote:ADT still inching upwards:

CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
7.5 / 908.8mb/155.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
(3hr avg)
7.5 7.7 7.7

Latitude bias adjustment to MSLP : +2.8mb

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 23 km

Center Temp : +18.9C Cloud Region Temp : -77.6C


T7.7 = 161 kt, so it could definitely get past Linda. Can Rick go all the way to T8.0?
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Re: EPAC : HURRICANE RICK (20E)

#274 Postby cycloneye » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:48 pm

Observations from the Island of Socorro.Nothing of interest right now,only the pressure is below 1005 mbs and the winds are blowing normally.It will be interesting to see the observations from this island as Rick gets closer.

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Estacion: Isla Socorro, Colima.
 SIA. I. MET.                 
                               
 AAAA-MM-DD-HH:MM    Dirs      Mgts     Dirmx     Mgtmx     Temp       Hr      Slp      Pcp
 2009-10-18-00:00    53.0      13.0      54.0      18.3     28.0     79.0   1003.9      0.0
 2009-10-18-01:00    48.0      10.0      53.0      15.8     27.4     82.0   1004.2      0.0
 2009-10-18-02:00    57.0      11.5      51.0      16.7     27.1     84.0   1004.7      0.0


http://meteorologia.semar.gob.mx/datos_emas/socorro.dat
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#275 Postby Chacor » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:50 pm

Remember, for its strength, Rick has a very small windfield:

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 45 MILES...75 KM...FROM
THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 155
MILES...250 KM.
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#276 Postby btangy » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:58 pm

From the SSMI and AMSUB overpasses around 01Z, it looks like an outer eyewall may be beginning to form. If so, Rick probably won't get to 160 knots in the books. You can see the cirrus to the SW of Rick is also stationary indicating there are some upper level winds there that are beginning to impinge slightly on the tremendous outflow, so there's reason to believe Rick has flexed its muscles and will begin a slow atrophy soon.
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Re: EPAC : HURRICANE RICK (20E)

#277 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:15 pm

Not done yet, but maybe it is FINALLY peaking? ADT now supports an intensity of 160 kt.

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UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 7.2.3
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 18 OCT 2009 Time : 031500 UTC
Lat : 14:57:40 N Lon : 106:06:21 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
7.6 / 905.6mb/158.0kt



Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
(3hr avg)
7.6 7.6 7.6

Latitude bias adjustment to MSLP : +2.8mb

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 24 km

Center Temp : +19.0C Cloud Region Temp : -76.9C

Scene Type : EYE

Positioning Method : RING/SPIRAL COMBINATION

Ocean Basin : EAST PACIFIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : ATLANTIC

Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : NO LIMIT
Weakening Flag : OFF
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF
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#278 Postby Squarethecircle » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:21 pm

It is indeed very difficult for a storm to get much more intense than Rick already is. Additionally, all it takes is the beginning of an EWRC and that would be it in terms of intensification.
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Re: EPAC : HURRICANE RICK (20E)

#279 Postby ozonepete » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:26 pm

Looks like it's at peak and will not get stronger than Linda after all.
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#280 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:36 pm

Image

Continues to look very impressive
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