ATL: TROPICAL STORM BILL (03L)

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#1821 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:22 pm

deltadog03 wrote:Some early info is that the 12z euro is further west through hour 96.


How much closer to the islands?
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#1822 Postby deltadog03 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:23 pm

From what one of my friends is telling me is that the new euro is around 30N and 67ish W So, not quite as far W as the gfdl or the hwrf, but def. further west than last nights 00z run.

This is hour 108 BTW
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#1823 Postby deltadog03 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:24 pm

cycloneye wrote:
deltadog03 wrote:Some early info is that the 12z euro is further west through hour 96.


How much closer to the islands?


Luis, from what I gather, its around 2 to 2.5 degrees further west. I will have to see for sure.
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (03L)

#1824 Postby Blown Away » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:24 pm

Next advisory should be through the Hebert Box.
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (03L)

#1825 Postby The Eye Wall » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:26 pm

Bill is going to have to rid himself of the dryair near the CDO. If he can do that, I don't see any reason why we won't have a Cat. 3 by 11 pm...especially at the rate we're seeing the pressure drop.

Once Bill develops a well pronounced eye, we're going to have to watch for these dark areas to show up in the CDO. This time it won't be dry air, but a moat (an area of subsidence just outside the eyewall). This is indicative of an EWRC.

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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (03L)

#1826 Postby drezee » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:27 pm

buoy recorded 972 pressure with 27kt 10-min average wind...pressure may be in the 960s (RoT, pressure minus (knots/10))
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (03L)

#1827 Postby sevenleft » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:28 pm

Pressure bottomed out at 972mb at buoy 41041. Buoy is now passing through the eastern or southeastern eyewall (or eyewall feature).
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (03L)

#1828 Postby Skyhawk » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:28 pm

Bill apparently passed north of buoy 41041 at 1708Z. Minimum pressure was 28.71 in last advisory pressure was 977mb (28.85). Highest wind prior to passage was 50.3 kts.
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#1829 Postby x-y-no » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:28 pm

Bill's eye has passed north of buoy 41041 (14.357 N 46.008 W )

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Time  wind dir               wind speed
1750   SSW ( 195 deg )    17.7 m/s
1740   SSW ( 207 deg )    19.1 m/s
1730   SW ( 228 deg )    17.2 m/s
1720   W ( 264 deg )    12.7 m/s
1710   NNW ( 335 deg )    14.6 m/s
1700   N ( 350 deg )    22.6 m/s
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (Models)

#1830 Postby tolakram » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:29 pm

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/natl/flash-wv.html

Shouldn't Bill be slowing if he's going to make the first bend?
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (Models)

#1831 Postby TreasureIslandFLGal » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:30 pm

Wouldn't that be interesting if the NY City hit occurred this year... despite the otherwise "slow" season many were pointing out just a week ago. That would show that just one storm is all it takes to make a memorable season.

They recently did a special on the Science channel about that being one of the big disasters that could happen one day.

Bill could be the one if this west trending continues.

I wouldn't let my guard down if I lived in NC either.
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (Models)

#1832 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:35 pm

Dont believe the models further than 4 days out. This thing will track more and more west and the models will adjust.


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*Edited by southerngale to add the disclaimer. You need to use it when making such matter of fact statements.
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (Models)

#1833 Postby tolakram » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:37 pm

SEASON_CANCELED wrote:Dont believe the models further than 4 days out. This thing will track more and more west and the models will adjust.


You shouldn't make statements you can't backup, but that's an opinion.

You should not make statements like that without the proper disclaimer. :|
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (Models)

#1834 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:39 pm

tolakram wrote:
SEASON_CANCELED wrote:Dont believe the models further than 4 days out. This thing will track more and more west and the models will adjust.


You shouldn't make statements you can't backup, but that's an opinion.

You should not make statements like that without the proper disclaimer. :|


Really? Go back 3 pages where I stated what happened today before this run. this thing isnt clear from CONUS by a long shot. Anybody looking at model consenses 10 days out isnt very smart. a DISCLAIMER? for something in the middle of the atlantic? :roll:
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (Models)

#1835 Postby x-y-no » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:42 pm

SEASON_CANCELED wrote:
tolakram wrote:
SEASON_CANCELED wrote:Dont believe the models further than 4 days out. This thing will track more and more west and the models will adjust.


You shouldn't make statements you can't backup, but that's an opinion.

You should not make statements like that without the proper disclaimer. :|


Really? Go back 3 pages where I stated what happened today. Anybody looking at model consenses 10 days out isnt very smart


If you had said "anybody taking the model consensus 10 day out as definitive" I could agree with you. But looking that far out isn't a pointless exercise at all.
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (Models)

#1836 Postby drezee » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:44 pm

looking at the large scale features on the HWRF, at 120 and beyond...does this not look like the trough misses...center of the trough is at the same lat as the storm at the end of the frame and the storm has no E component in the direction...
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (Models)

#1837 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:46 pm

Let me rephrase it. Anybody boarding up there house and evacuating because of a 10 day model concensus isnt very smart. Hence no disclaimer needed
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (Models)

#1838 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:47 pm

12z NOGAPS joins the west shift

NOGAPS says hello to Carolinas.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/ngptc2.c ... =Animation

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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (Models)

#1839 Postby Thunder44 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:50 pm

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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (Models)

#1840 Postby Blown Away » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:52 pm

Seems like a tight window for the trough to catch Bill. The Nogaps is getting way to close for comfort. Getting interesting!
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