ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION HENRI (10L)
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I think that most, if not all, of the S2K members in the NE Caribbean who are very concerned about a potential impact would not say that a disturbance becoming better organized with a greater chance of developing into a life-threatening tropical cyclone is "looking good".[/quote]
The bolded and italicized part of your statement is what "looking good" means.
I know all about the fact that this could endanger people's lives and everything.[/quote]
And how in the world is that "looking good"? You might consider just stating that it looks better organized without making an opinion as to whether it looks good or not. My clients tell me that I've had that problem in the past, saying that a disturbance is "looking better today" or "looking more promising" when that's certainly not good for them. We have to control our enthusiasm when lives are at stake.[/quote]
Jeez you'd think with 7 named storms this year you would have had enough time to get them bike rides in...
The bolded and italicized part of your statement is what "looking good" means.
I know all about the fact that this could endanger people's lives and everything.[/quote]
And how in the world is that "looking good"? You might consider just stating that it looks better organized without making an opinion as to whether it looks good or not. My clients tell me that I've had that problem in the past, saying that a disturbance is "looking better today" or "looking more promising" when that's certainly not good for them. We have to control our enthusiasm when lives are at stake.[/quote]
Jeez you'd think with 7 named storms this year you would have had enough time to get them bike rides in...
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Models
18z GFDL gives more life to 91L.And as the Bams do,GFDL bends west or even WSW after moving WNW.
CHGQLM
ATTENTION...NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER
NCEP COUPLED GFDL HURRICANE MODEL FORECAST MADE FOR
TROPICAL DEPRESSION INVEST 91L
INITIAL TIME 18Z OCT 5
DISCLAIMER ... THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED AS GUIDANCE. IT
REQUIRES INTERPRETATION BY HURRICANE SPECIALISTS AND SHOULD
NOT BE CONSIDERED AS A FINAL PRODUCT. PLEASE SEE THE TPC/NHC
OFFICIAL FORECAST.
FORECAST STORM POSITION
HOUR LATITUDE LONGITUDE HEADING/SPEED(KT)
0 13.4 46.8 305./14.0
6 14.4 48.2 307./17.3
12 14.9 49.9 284./17.5
18 15.8 51.9 295./21.2
24 16.3 53.4 289./15.3
30 16.8 55.0 288./15.8
36 17.4 56.7 290./17.3
42 18.5 58.2 303./17.8
48 18.2 60.1 262./18.4
STORM DISSIPATED AT 48 HRS AT THE ABOVE PSN.
CHGQLM
ATTENTION...NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER
NCEP COUPLED GFDL HURRICANE MODEL FORECAST MADE FOR
TROPICAL DEPRESSION INVEST 91L
INITIAL TIME 18Z OCT 5
DISCLAIMER ... THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED AS GUIDANCE. IT
REQUIRES INTERPRETATION BY HURRICANE SPECIALISTS AND SHOULD
NOT BE CONSIDERED AS A FINAL PRODUCT. PLEASE SEE THE TPC/NHC
OFFICIAL FORECAST.
FORECAST STORM POSITION
HOUR LATITUDE LONGITUDE HEADING/SPEED(KT)
0 13.4 46.8 305./14.0
6 14.4 48.2 307./17.3
12 14.9 49.9 284./17.5
18 15.8 51.9 295./21.2
24 16.3 53.4 289./15.3
30 16.8 55.0 288./15.8
36 17.4 56.7 290./17.3
42 18.5 58.2 303./17.8
48 18.2 60.1 262./18.4
STORM DISSIPATED AT 48 HRS AT THE ABOVE PSN.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 91L
Ok,lets return to the topic of the thread.
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Models
cycloneye wrote:18z GFDL gives more life to 91L.And as the Bams do,GFDL bends west or even WSW after moving WNW.
CHGQLM
ATTENTION...NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER
NCEP COUPLED GFDL HURRICANE MODEL FORECAST MADE FOR
TROPICAL DEPRESSION INVEST 91L
INITIAL TIME 18Z OCT 5
DISCLAIMER ... THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED AS GUIDANCE. IT
REQUIRES INTERPRETATION BY HURRICANE SPECIALISTS AND SHOULD
NOT BE CONSIDERED AS A FINAL PRODUCT. PLEASE SEE THE TPC/NHC
OFFICIAL FORECAST.
FORECAST STORM POSITION
HOUR LATITUDE LONGITUDE HEADING/SPEED(KT)
0 13.4 46.8 305./14.0
6 14.4 48.2 307./17.3
12 14.9 49.9 284./17.5
18 15.8 51.9 295./21.2
24 16.3 53.4 289./15.3
30 16.8 55.0 288./15.8
36 17.4 56.7 290./17.3
42 18.5 58.2 303./17.8
48 18.2 60.1 262./18.4
STORM DISSIPATED AT 48 HRS AT THE ABOVE PSN.
Looks like, maybe? a prononced ridging trend at the end of the forecast period? We shall see, way to early to have the answer, but let's wait and see...as 91L could eventually churn near the NE Leewards.
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Tom Moore, Lead Meteorologist, The Weather Channel
Oct. 5, 2009 4:50 pm ET
A tropical wave located about 950 miles east of the Lesser Antilles has a small area of low pressure associated with it. Shower and thunderstorm activity continues to flare around this feature. Environmental conditions are favorable for some slow development over the next day or two as it moves west-northwest near 15 mph. Should the system develop significantly it would be pulled northward toward the central Atlantic where it would encounter stronger shearing winds. Those winds would likely rip the system apart northeast of the Lesser Antilles. If the system remains weak it would continue west-northwest spreading showers and thunderstorms into the islands later Wednesday and Thursday.
Oct. 5, 2009 4:50 pm ET
A tropical wave located about 950 miles east of the Lesser Antilles has a small area of low pressure associated with it. Shower and thunderstorm activity continues to flare around this feature. Environmental conditions are favorable for some slow development over the next day or two as it moves west-northwest near 15 mph. Should the system develop significantly it would be pulled northward toward the central Atlantic where it would encounter stronger shearing winds. Those winds would likely rip the system apart northeast of the Lesser Antilles. If the system remains weak it would continue west-northwest spreading showers and thunderstorms into the islands later Wednesday and Thursday.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 91L
This looks like it would turn north before the high pressure builds in to keep it west.This system is just following the rest of the storms that formed this year.The shear will eat this storm up if it does organize more quickly too once it turns north.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 91L
Code Orange
ABNT20 KNHC 052342
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT MON OCT 5 2009
FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...
THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IS ISSUING ADVISORIES ON TROPICAL
STORM GRACE...LOCATED SEVERAL HUNDRED MILES SOUTHWEST OF THE
SOUTHWESTERN COAST OF IRELAND.
A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE LOCATED ABOUT 875 MILES EAST OF THE
LESSER ANTILLES IS MOVING WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT ABOUT 15 MPH. THE
ASSOCIATED SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY HAS BECOME A LITTLE
BETTER ORGANIZED THIS EVENING AND THIS SYSTEM HAS THE POTENTIAL TO
BECOME A TROPICAL DEPRESSION DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO BEFORE
UPPER-LEVEL WINDS BECOME LESS FAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT. THERE IS
A MEDIUM CHANCE...30 TO 50 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A
TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.
ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.
PUBLIC ADVISORIES ON GRACE ARE ISSUED UNDER WMO HEADER WTNT34 KNHC
AND UNDER AWIPS HEADER MIATCPAT4. FORECAST/ADVISORIES ON GRACE ARE
ISSUED UNDER WMO HEADER WTNT24 KNHC AND UNDER AWIPS HEADER
MIATCMAT4.
$$
FORECASTER BROWN/ROBERTS
ABNT20 KNHC 052342
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT MON OCT 5 2009
FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...
THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IS ISSUING ADVISORIES ON TROPICAL
STORM GRACE...LOCATED SEVERAL HUNDRED MILES SOUTHWEST OF THE
SOUTHWESTERN COAST OF IRELAND.
A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE LOCATED ABOUT 875 MILES EAST OF THE
LESSER ANTILLES IS MOVING WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT ABOUT 15 MPH. THE
ASSOCIATED SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY HAS BECOME A LITTLE
BETTER ORGANIZED THIS EVENING AND THIS SYSTEM HAS THE POTENTIAL TO
BECOME A TROPICAL DEPRESSION DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO BEFORE
UPPER-LEVEL WINDS BECOME LESS FAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT. THERE IS
A MEDIUM CHANCE...30 TO 50 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A
TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.
ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.
PUBLIC ADVISORIES ON GRACE ARE ISSUED UNDER WMO HEADER WTNT34 KNHC
AND UNDER AWIPS HEADER MIATCPAT4. FORECAST/ADVISORIES ON GRACE ARE
ISSUED UNDER WMO HEADER WTNT24 KNHC AND UNDER AWIPS HEADER
MIATCMAT4.
$$
FORECASTER BROWN/ROBERTS
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Re: ATL : INVEST 91L
Can somebody post a shear map. Thanks.
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Blown_away wrote:I think that most, if not all, of the S2K members in the NE Caribbean who are very concerned about a potential impact would not say that a disturbance becoming better organized with a greater chance of developing into a life-threatening tropical cyclone is "looking goodAnd how in the world is that "looking good"? You might consider just stating that it looks better organized without making an opinion as to whether it looks good or not. My clients tell me that I've had that problem in the past, saying that a disturbance is "looking better today" or "looking more promising" when that's certainly not good for them. We have to control our enthusiasm when lives are at stake.
Wrong, Storm2k is not your clients and this is not an official forecast. This is a group of folks who love hurricanes, stop w/ the politically correct nonsense! Anybody that lives in the islands should not be offended by a post saying an invest is "looking good", on a tropical weather discussion board, give me a break! Wxman loosen up!!!
I support wxman 100% . It's not ONLY weather freaks out here on the board. Look at some of the typhoon posts, posted in the last few hours. Some people are, more or less, panicking of what could happen with them and their loved ones.
A system can be looking good for....... who, what, where? I agree then it's better to state "it's better organized". Then the heavy weather freaks know it's WOWWW time and the ones in the path know it's time to be on alert.
Just my opinion.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 91L
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Re: ATL : INVEST 91L
cycloneye wrote:Ok,lets return to the topic of the thread.
I just get tired of the endless rooting for development by some on this board, regardless of the consequences of that development. You'll never see me pulling for something to develop. Sure, it might seem exciting to be threatened by a hurricane - until you're dealing with the aftermath of a direct hit. Members here like MGC probably don't look at hurricanes in the same way after Katrina. Believe me, you don't want to be hit by one.
Ok, that's it on the subject.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 91L
some of the latest microwave images.. its showing much improved organization with one clear band wrapping around.. its becoming more lilkely as the hours tick by the we will likely have TD sometime in the morning..
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Re: ATL : INVEST 91L
wxman57 wrote:cycloneye wrote:Ok,lets return to the topic of the thread.
I just get tired of the endless rooting for development by some on this board, regardless of the consequences of that development. You'll never see me pulling for something to develop. Sure, it might seem exciting to be threatened by a hurricane - until you're dealing with the aftermath of a direct hit. Members here like MGC probably don't look at hurricanes in the same way after Katrina. Believe me, you don't want to be hit by one.
Ok, that's it on the subject.
Do you forget this is a tropical weather discussion board? You think a post saying 91L is "looking good" now compared this morning is not being sensitive to the island folks? Tell me, what is the point of this forum if we can't post observations about a system? Rooting no, posting observations on an improving invest, yes. Wxman, I appreciate every post you make but you are being way to sensitive. It's all good!
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Re: ATL : INVEST 91L
Blown_away wrote:expat2carib
Nobody should be getting official info from Storm2k and I can't believe anybody would be offended from somebody posting that a wave is "looking good", especially from Hurakan. No offense intended, but some of you folks in the islands can be so uptight.
It's just a question of communication. I'm not offended at all. It's my empathy with others that will make me choosing my words more careful. I can see the beauty as well. And BTW I know Hurakan is one of the backbones of s2k and I appreciate his work very much. But let's get real.... if one can't criticize, where will we end then?
Back to the topic.
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