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#761 Postby KWT » Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:03 pm

No Blown_away, the ECM probably won't be out for a good 7-8hrs yet.

GFDL 18z showing this down to 948mbs... :eek:
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna Model Runs

#762 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:06 pm

Blown_away wrote:The ECMWF only runs twice a day 00Z & 12Z, correct? So we should be getting a new ECMWF run shortly? This model is aka the Euro?



EURO came out et 3pm EST
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna Model Runs

#763 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:17 pm

ronjon wrote:18Z GFS near Savannah at 90 hrs.

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Question for the Pro's why does the GFS kill off a well developed Ike? And since this is the case does it effect the setup out in front of it?
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#764 Postby Trader Ron » Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:24 pm

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#765 Postby Trader Ron » Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:25 pm

Trader Ron wrote:http://www.crownweather.com/hanna.html


Look at the wind swath forecast
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna Model Runs

#766 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:25 pm

Destruction, GFS refused to develop Dolly Fay and Gustav to start..ike has an excellent setup for further intensification
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#767 Postby MusicCityMan » Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:52 pm

any chances the track shifts even further southward? or is that not likely.. she is at the very least supposed 2 get very close to florida.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna Model Runs

#768 Postby AJC3 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:57 pm

Blown_away wrote:The ECMWF only runs twice a day 00Z & 12Z, correct? So we should be getting a new ECMWF run shortly? This model is aka the Euro?



00Z ECMWF won't post to the web until after 2 AM.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna Model Runs

#769 Postby invest man » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:21 pm

I just noticred the 0z model runs. Looks to me that the models has shifted a little n toward the Charleston, SC area. IMO the longer she hangs out over the SE Bahamas the more N ward the tracts will shift. Any thoughts?
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna Model Runs

#770 Postby GTStorm » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:29 pm

invest man wrote:I just noticred the 0z model runs. Looks to me that the models has shifted a little n toward the Charleston, SC area. IMO the longer she hangs out over the SE Bahamas the more N ward the tracts will shift. Any thoughts?


I saw that too. Maybe it'll just keep on re-curving with each subsequent run. I don't know enough to talk intelligently about what would drive that shift. Is the high forecast to just not develop that far west? Is there an approaching trough that is getting stronger with each forecast run? Dunno. Maybe a met can help.

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tr ... model.html
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna Model Runs

#771 Postby Emmett_Brown » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:39 pm

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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna Model Runs

#772 Postby jaxfladude » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:41 pm

Looking better for me(always good news for one and bad news for another)...bad bad news for SC if this pans out..prayers that Hanna is not a major hurricane at that point...if the right shift has occurred....left shift worse for me...
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna Model Runs

#773 Postby AtlanticWind » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:45 pm

invest man wrote:I just noticred the 0z model runs. Looks to me that the models has shifted a little n toward the Charleston, SC area. IMO the longer she hangs out over the SE Bahamas the more N ward the tracts will shift. Any thoughts?

There is no 00z models out yet
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna Model Runs

#774 Postby NCWeatherChic » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:28 pm

I have been saying all today that I feel like this is another 89' Hugo event. Looks like the set up is there. She keeps nudging ever so slightly S, then more than likely she will go more N at the end.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna Model Runs

#775 Postby SouthFLTropics » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:32 pm

AtlanticWind wrote:
invest man wrote:I just noticred the 0z model runs. Looks to me that the models has shifted a little n toward the Charleston, SC area. IMO the longer she hangs out over the SE Bahamas the more N ward the tracts will shift. Any thoughts?

There is no 00z models out yet


Agreed. 00z models won't begin until around 11:30PM EDT. They will start with the GFS then.

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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna Model Runs

#776 Postby Steve H. » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:37 pm

There are no reliable 0z runs yet, 'cept maybe the numericals.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna Model Runs

#777 Postby Steve H. » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:41 pm

There are no reliable 0z runs yet, 'cept maybe the numericals.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna Model Runs

#778 Postby deltadog03 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:48 pm

actually the longer this hangs out I would be more inclined the further west this would go...
The ridge will be building in....not away.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna Model Runs

#779 Postby AdamFirst » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:50 pm

deltadog03 wrote:actually the longer this hangs out I would be more inclined the further west this would go...
The ridge will be building in....not away.


Would the current strength help this cause as well?
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna Model Runs

#780 Postby Steve H. » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:51 pm

Agree D' Dog. The whole premise of the track is to wait until the closed vortex in the NW Atlantic turn NE then the ridge builds back west. The more time Hanna stays south, the more time the ridge has to build back to the west.
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