ATL: Tropical Storm Bertha RECON Discussion

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

I've got a question, if the plane has a big problem in the pilot has only a short enough time to make a landing in Bermuda. Could they land in Bermuda, or is the airport not able to land a recon plane?

[RL3AO]

I've got a question, if the plane has a big problem in the pilot has only a short enough time to make a landing in Bermuda. Could they land in Bermuda, or is the airport not able to land a recon plane?

They could land in Bermuda (aka long enough runway). They would rather make it back to the states. But Bermuda is better than the ocean.

[HURAKAN]

I think in the situation of an emergency they will be able to land in Bermuda. Bermuda is part of England's commonwealth, if I'm correct, and I don't think there will be a problem b/w the US and the UK.

[hiflyer]

short answer...very much yes. Long answer...the airport handles up to 747's without a problem...a C130 is no issue. As regards to being military BDA is used by many nations as a fuel stop when transporting their aircraft from the US to Europe/Middle East

[Chacor]

As HURAKAN alluded to, Bermuda is not an independent, sovereign nation, but rather, is under British rule, so I doubt there would be an issue politically. And I'm sure the airport is more than capable of taking the plane in any emergency.

[KWT]

Already got winds that justify TS strength, highest FL so far 49kts:

164430 2937N 06310W 6965 03187 0125 +064 +050 044049 049 040 000 00

[CrazyC83]

68 kt FL, 56 kt SFMR found.

Those support 60 kt and we are way outside the eye.

[Chacor]

That itself is not surprising, Crazy. 64-kt winds only extend out up to 25 nm in the NE quad.

[HURAKAN]

That's also the NW quadrant. The strongest winds are usually found in the NE Quadrant.

[KWT]

Yep the estimates indeed support 60kts and we haven't sampled the stornger sections, indeed the NW side is easily the weaker of the two northern quadrants though given its slow foward speed I'd imagine most of the quadrants are of similar strength, maybe bar the NE quad which may be a little stronger.

[HURAKAN]

Furthermore, the RECON plane is inside the weakest convection.

[Chacor]

Peak SFMR of 72 kts.

[CrazyC83]

Yep and 80 kt FL supports 70 kt as well. Pressure 985mb and falling.

[KWT]

Yep went through the NW eyewall and we've found winds to support 70kts, therefore seems highly likely we will find 75kts winds in the NE quadrant I should imagine. Interestingly deepest convection is on the southern side which may mean the southern side being nearly as strong as the northern side.

[Chacor]

Winds should be pretty low in this upcoming HDOB as the plane flies through the eye. Looks like it's a little bit early for the planned 18z fix.

[CrazyC83]

Pressure 976mb on that pass, at least based on extrapolation.

[HURAKAN]

I've got a question, if the plane has a big problem in the pilot has only a short enough time to make a landing in Bermuda. Could they land in Bermuda, or is the airport not able to land a recon plane?

Matt, there's the runway.

[KWT]

Looks like it has a central pressure of 975.9mbs according to recon, so about 976mbs then!

[CrazyC83]

Did I just see 99 kt FL? That supports 90 kt...although the SFMR does not do such.

[Chacor]

92 kts flight-level. 85% reduction = 78 kts