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#3961 Postby JenBayles » Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:13 pm

Just on Ch. 11: Judge Emmett and Mayor White will address evacuation orders for Harris County at 7:30 a.m. tomorrow morning.
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#3962 Postby HouTXmetro » Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:17 pm

NHC North of the latest models

http://www.stormpulse.com/
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#3963 Postby Air Force Met » Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:35 pm

HouTXmetro wrote:NHC North of the latest models

http://www.stormpulse.com/


Not really. They are in the cluster. Some are south...some are north or right near their track.
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#3964 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:37 pm

Plus, keep in mind that the NHC track is not really a straight line as their image shows. In actuality, the storm will take more of a bend toward each point as it rounds the ridge, not a bee-line. When you take this into account, the NHC track is actually in pretty good agreement with the models.
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#3965 Postby Wx_Warrior » Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:44 pm

GFS 0z...30h

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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#3966 Postby Wx_Warrior » Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:50 pm

42h

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#3967 Postby smw1981 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:50 pm

I posted this in the other forum, but I think it is important to note...

For what it is worth, the 9/11 0z runs of the hurricane models (excluding the GFDL, which is not yet available) continued to feature a shift farther to the north. A number of models brings Ike onshore in north Texas, quite close to the border with Louisiana. - Don Sutherland's PM forecast tonight

I hope LA peeps are getting ready too because apparently they could be the next target.

(This is in the Tropical Analysis thread under his forecasts...for some reason I can't link it.)
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#3968 Postby Wx_Warrior » Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:51 pm

60 - landfall

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#3969 Postby dwg71 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:53 pm

60 hours inland just north of last run
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#3970 Postby shah8 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:54 pm

This is probably going to make a big difference for the HWRF model. The GFS is following the GFDL philosophy.

On the other hand, how many lines of isobars do you think are in the 42z surface image?
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#3971 Postby Wx_Warrior » Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:56 pm

FWIW...72h

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#3972 Postby HouTXmetro » Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:00 pm

Next GFDL may be east of Houston?
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#3973 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:01 pm

00z GFS = Landfall on the north side of Matagorda Bay.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_060l.gif
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#3974 Postby dwg71 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:01 pm

matagorda bay
give or take,

why does it feel like sept 2005 all over again

models start moving right and right from 72 hours in??
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#3975 Postby smw1981 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:02 pm

HouTXmetro wrote:Next GFDL may be east of Houston?


This is what I am thinking, but this is just crazy when we are so close to landfall! The models just keep shifting north/east. I understand why, just think it sucks for everyone dealing with it!
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#3976 Postby HouTXmetro » Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:04 pm

There is suppose to a consensus this close to landfall, not disagreement.
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#3977 Postby southerngale » Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:05 pm

dwg71 wrote:matagorda bay
give or take,

why does it feel like sept 2005 all over again

models start moving right and right from 72 hours in??



Tell me about it. On one hand, it seems silly to compare. This isn't Sept. 2005. On the other hand, the similarities are uncanny. Today's 4pm Ike track was almost identical to Rita's on Wednesday, 4pm before it hit. In fact, I had it open and people thought Rita's was Ike.

I just pray it's nothing like Rita was here.
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#3978 Postby HouTXmetro » Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:07 pm

southerngale wrote:
dwg71 wrote:matagorda bay
give or take,

why does it feel like sept 2005 all over again

models start moving right and right from 72 hours in??



Tell me about it. On one hand, it seems silly to compare. This isn't Sept. 2005. On the other hand, the similarities are uncanny. Today's 4pm Ike track was almost identical to Rita's on Wednesday, 4pm before it hit. In fact, I had it open and people thought Rita's was Ike.

I just pray it's nothing like Rita was here.


While it's still early, I'm fearing Rita type scenario. More eastern shifts. Models suck big time in September if you ask me.
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#3979 Postby thetruesms » Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:08 pm

HouTXmetro wrote:There is suppose to a consensus this close to landfall, not disagreement.
Unfortunately, Ike has really not been doing the models any favors this afternoon/evening :( It's got to be hard for the models, which already have a hard time with intensity to begin with, to handle a deepening like we've seen this evening.
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#3980 Postby mattpetre » Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:12 pm

Ike is not Rita. I think chances are with this different setup (WNW turn to come into play soon.) the models will actually shift a bit back to the West by morning time.
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