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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna in SE Bahamas

#2381 Postby jlauderdal » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:12 pm

lbvbl wrote:
Brent wrote:Image


eastern shift...


really, what part of the track shifted east?
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna in SE Bahamas

#2382 Postby meteorologyman » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:13 pm

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the recon still has this thing going south-south west, the further this thing goes southwest the more threaten FL will be when it finally decides to move W\WNW\NW.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna in SE Bahamas

#2383 Postby NFLnut » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:14 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
lbvbl wrote:
Brent wrote:Image


eastern shift...


really, what part of the track shifted east?



If anything, it shifted slightly WEST.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna in SE Bahamas

#2384 Postby Patrick99 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:15 pm

Yeah, I'm not relaxing on this one. Just told my parents to be ready; it's awfully close to FL, with some warm water ahead.

Went to South Beach today, noted fairly strong and deep E flow.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna in SE Bahamas

#2385 Postby NEXRAD » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:16 pm

CDO wrote:
Brent wrote:Georgia hasn't been hit by a hurricane since 1893...


Savannah was hit in 1947, I think, after one of the first hurricane seeding experiments.


Hurricane Bob (1985) came close to Savannah, however the last storm to bring hurricane conditions to the city was David (1979), which made final landfall just southwest of Savannah at 80 knot intensity. The 1947 hurricane hit the city at 75 knots. Other Savannah hurricanes include: 1940, 1911 (both 65 knots), 1898 had two hurricanes to hit Georgia (both around 85 knot landfall intensity), and the 1893 hurricane made landfall near Savannah at 95 knots, thereby making it the strongest hurricane of recent record to hit the city.

- Jay
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#2386 Postby Raebie » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:20 pm

That path through the Carolinas is looking to similar to Hugo's for my liking...
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#2387 Postby KWT » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:21 pm

Yep cpdaman once shear eases off yet further we should see some quicker strengthening occur, to waht extent though is a big question. Looking likely though that this will be close to ths strength that Dolly was when it made landfall but still early days yet, need to see how it handles shear over the next 24hrs firstly.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna in SE Bahamas

#2388 Postby caneman » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:21 pm

I found this interesting. Not one of these historical storms that formed within 300 miles (only Cat. 1 and Cat. 2 analyzed though) impacted the Florida Penisula.
http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tr ... ml#a_topad
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna in SE Bahamas

#2389 Postby NEXRAD » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:26 pm

caneman wrote:I found this interesting. Not one of these historical storms that formed within 300 miles (only Cat. 1 and Cat. 2 analyzed though) impacted the Florida Penisula.
http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tr ... ml#a_topad


Which formation point did you use? Based on Hanna's current position, several historical storms located in the area eventually impacted Florida, to include 1995's Erin.

- Jay
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#2390 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:26 pm

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I hope the Bahamas and the Turks and Caicos can cope with this tremendous amount of precipitation.
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#2391 Postby NCWeatherChic » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:28 pm

Raebie wrote:That path through the Carolinas is looking to similar to Hugo's for my liking...



That's what I said as well in another post. It really does seem to be following the same. That was the first hurricane I remember going through and my first born was 5mths old at the time. Wow, now I feel old with him being 19 now and 4 more since then, the last is 11mths. Geesshhh!
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#2392 Postby KWT » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:28 pm

That is really interesting indeed, indeed most of those went out to sea, however it seems over the last 2 weeks we've had a pretty strong upper high that has allowed pretty much no escape path for any system in August and that seems like its still the case now.

I think it may well end up going close to GA/SC but right now as before everywhere still needs to watch but at least with its motion being very slow indeed now it allows more confidence in the models.
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#2393 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:29 pm

its a very interesting upper set over hanna.. with the normal shear set would have killed hanna by now but since the flow is more divergent its aiding in the lift... hence the ability of hanna to so called "fight off the shear"( no fighting really at all with this set up). So if hanna stays put then it may continue to strengthen possibly to cat 3 before it begins to move.
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#2394 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:33 pm

Webcam:

Snapshot:
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Link: http://www.provogolfclub.com/WC_271/18t ... ebcam.html

Very strong winds.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna in SE Bahamas

#2395 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:34 pm

This is were Katrina first starting to form., If the models start moving westward then watch it carefully.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna in SE Bahamas

#2396 Postby Epsilon_Fan » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:35 pm

Charleston's definately got it's eyes on this one... we are making plans to batten down the hatches already at the marine lab I work at. :eek: Let's hope this is at most Cat 1 or lower when it gets up here, just enough to not cause much damage and provide some good shelling in the next week or so. We can only hope.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna in SE Bahamas

#2397 Postby caneman » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:36 pm

NEXRAD wrote:
caneman wrote:I found this interesting. Not one of these historical storms that formed within 300 miles (only Cat. 1 and Cat. 2 analyzed though) impacted the Florida Penisula.
http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tr ... ml#a_topad


Which formation point did you use? Based on Hanna's current position, several historical storms located in the area eventually impacted Florida, to include 1995's Erin.

- Jay

Actually I didn't Jay, I just pulled it off of Weather Underground. If you or some one knows how/where to get it want and want to post I would love to see it. I remember you from The Weather Channel board. I believe you, me, Sanibel, Dean4Storms? and Cyconleye posted there. Sorry if I missed someone.
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#2398 Postby Patrick99 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:36 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Image

I hope the Bahamas and the Turks and Caicos can cope with this tremendous amount of precipitation.


I think they can deal with it. Those islands are no strangers to hurricanes, and there's really nowhere for the water to go except run off.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna in SE Bahamas

#2399 Postby skufful » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:40 pm

NEXRAD wrote:
CDO wrote:
Brent wrote:Georgia hasn't been hit by a hurricane since 1893...


Savannah was hit in 1947, I think, after one of the first hurricane seeding experiments.


Hurricane Bob (1985) came close to Savannah, however the last storm to bring hurricane conditions to the city was David (1979), which made final landfall just southwest of Savannah at 80 knot intensity. The 1947 hurricane hit the city at 75 knots. Other Savannah hurricanes include: 1940, 1911 (both 65 knots), 1898 had two hurricanes to hit Georgia (both around 85 knot landfall intensity), and the 1893 hurricane made landfall near Savannah at 95 knots, thereby making it the strongest hurricane of recent record to hit the city.

- Jay


The eye of David went right over Savannah - I know - we drove to our river house in Bluffton in the eye. At least we started in the eye. Lost power for three weeks!
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#2400 Postby HurricaneQueen » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:42 pm

bob rulz wrote:
KBBOCA wrote:It brought a question to mind.
What is the record for number of active storms in the Atlantic basin at one time? Can anyone let me know?


I believe the record is 4. Last time that happened was 1995, when I think (?) it was Humberto, Jerry, Iris, and Karen all at the same time. We could easily tie that record again today or tomorrow.


There were FIVE at one time during 1995-you left out Luis. Easy enough to do as it never impacted the US but I have first hand knowledge, having lived through Luis in the Caribbean-not a fun time, I can assure you. I still have nightmares of a CAT 4 on a small island. :roll:

Here is the data:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/1995humberto.html

Lynn
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