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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in Western Atlantic

#2081 Postby Thunder44 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:00 am

Based on recon. It looks like it may be just below hurricane strength.
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#2082 Postby Frank2 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:00 am

The NHC did a good job with Gustav, but, were like everyone else when it came to the forecast and expected "warm loop" retinensification...

Ugh - this season is giving me a headache...

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Re: T Storm Hanna=Recon found lowest pressure of 985.6 mbs

#2083 Postby greels » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:00 am

bahamaswx wrote:
its hardly on our doorstep and furthermore its barely moving, if recon finds something earth shattering then nhc will let us know via stds otherwise there is plenty of time for everyone on the se conus to wobble watch this thing


This is not out to sea, miles from anywhere. This is on someone's doorstep, just not yours.


Thank you. Folks don't realize what the impact Hanna will have on us. here in the T&C......A large part of Provo is below flood plain and I am quite sure parts of our Island are now flooded and folks displaced.
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Re: T Storm Hanna=Recon found lowest pressure of 985.6 mbs

#2084 Postby captain east » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:00 am

superfly wrote:
umguy wrote:OMG CNN just said how great a job the NHC is doing with forecasting where storms are going. :double:

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Dude, that's probably on off by like a mile. Holy crap...
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Re: T Storm Hanna=Recon found lowest pressure of 985.6 mbs

#2085 Postby jlauderdal » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:01 am

bahamaswx wrote:
its hardly on our doorstep and furthermore its barely moving, if recon finds something earth shattering then nhc will let us know via stds otherwise there is plenty of time for everyone on the se conus to wobble watch this thing


This is not out to sea, miles from anywhere. This is on someone's doorstep, just not yours.


who said it was out to sea?

the original poster was from florida the west coast and Im on the east coast and thus the word our doorstep..PM me if you would like a further explanation, good luck with Hanna
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#2086 Postby BigA » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:02 am

66kt flight level winds on the southeast side of the storm...yet to sample NE quad.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in Western Atlantic

#2087 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:03 am

Thunder44 wrote:Based on recon. It looks like it may be just below hurricane strength.


The NE quadrant hasn't been examined yet.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in Western Atlantic

#2088 Postby typhoon_tim » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:03 am

this jump to the south or southwest of the center still might not mean a heck of a lot in the long range.... remember many of the models were forecasting some sort of stall out or loop in this area. suffice it to say, hanna is strengthening... it's about to spend a good day in an area with little to no steering flow... and it's taking a nice warm bath. EVERYONE from FL to NC should really watch this one...
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#2089 Postby chadtm80 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:03 am

Alright all.. All points made.. Lets get back to hanna
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in Western Atlantic

#2090 Postby cpdaman » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:05 am

we need to pray that the shear stay high over this thing , otherwise tons of people in the bahamas may be shocked later today/tonite (shear seems to have picked up since about 930 am over this thing-see the gustav outlfow streak going thru hanna's cdo of late)
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#2091 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:06 am

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in Western Atlantic

#2092 Postby WmE » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:06 am

cpdaman wrote:we need to pray that the shear stay high over this thing , otherwise tons of people in the bahamas may be shocked later today/tonite (shear seems to have picked up since about 930 am over this thing-see the gustav outlfow streak going thru hanna's cdo of late)


With that said a hurricane warning needs to be issued by the NHC, IMHO.
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#2093 Postby fasterdisaster » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:07 am

Is that an eye forming?
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#2094 Postby BigA » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:10 am

Shear may or may not be increasing at this minute, but 2 things are apparent. Gustav continues to move away, and the convection continues to blow up on the latest frames. Looks to me like a 60kt TS or 65-70kt hurricane.
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#2095 Postby captain east » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:11 am

fasterdisaster wrote:Is that an eye forming?

Nvm, listen to him... :darrow:
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#2096 Postby apocalypt-flyer » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:13 am

fasterdisaster wrote:Is that an eye forming?


I thought so too, just west of North Caicos.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in Western Atlantic

#2097 Postby Vortex » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:15 am

without question any eye is becoming visible on the latest Vis imagery. This is also supportive of the latest recon data and a pressure of 986 is representative of a minimal hurricane. I wonder if the outlier Ukmet is on to something here..
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in Western Atlantic

#2098 Postby AJC3 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:15 am

WmE wrote:
cpdaman wrote:we need to pray that the shear stay high over this thing , otherwise tons of people in the bahamas may be shocked later today/tonite (shear seems to have picked up since about 930 am over this thing-see the gustav outlfow streak going thru hanna's cdo of late)


With that said a hurricane warning needs to be issued by the NHC, IMHO.


I'm sure one will be issued...not by the NHC, but by the government of the Bahamas (and Turks and Caicos if they are a separate entity) with the 2PM package.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in Western Atlantic

#2099 Postby Blown Away » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:16 am

With Gustav, remember once that LLC reformed SW of the Haiti peninsula the models had a no doubt exact point and that's when the NHC track became dead on. Now that Hanna is getting her act together the NHC should have a clear point to forecast, which they really have not had for a day or so. I would expect the 5pm and on track to be very accurate.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in Western Atlantic

#2100 Postby Chacor » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:16 am

AJC3 wrote:
WmE wrote:
cpdaman wrote:we need to pray that the shear stay high over this thing , otherwise tons of people in the bahamas may be shocked later today/tonite (shear seems to have picked up since about 930 am over this thing-see the gustav outlfow streak going thru hanna's cdo of late)


With that said a hurricane warning needs to be issued by the NHC, IMHO.


I'm sure one will be issued...not by the NHC, but by the government of the Bahamas (and Turks and Caicos if they are a separate entity) with the 2PM package.


Turks and Caicos are a British territory, but the Bahamas issues warnings for them.
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