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#21 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:20 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:hey where are you geting the minobs's from.. my page i normally use is not working..



Before they ruined the text page on the Ohio State Twister site, regular obs, automated data and vortex messages would pop up just a few minutes old.

Plane is almost to Barbados.
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#22 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:21 pm

http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/raw/ur ... .knhc..txt for observations.

http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/raw/ur/?C=M;O=D for all categories - URNT10 is dropsondes, URNT11 is RECCO observations, URNT12 is vortex messages, URNT15 is normal data
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#23 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:22 pm

Ed Mahmoud wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:hey where are you geting the minobs's from.. my page i normally use is not working..



Before they ruined the text page on the Ohio State Twister site, regular obs, automated data and vortex messages would pop up just a few minutes old.

Plane is almost to Barbados.


right well that site no longer does anything except vortex ... im looking for the minobs.. and the nhc site is really slow .. even the texas a&m site no longer does it,..
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#24 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:23 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/raw/ur/urnt15.knhc..txt for observations.

http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/raw/ur/?C=M;O=D for all categories - URNT10 is dropsondes, URNT11 is RECCO observations, URNT12 is vortex messages, URNT15 is normal data


thanks thats better..
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Re: Invest 94L Recon Discussion Thread

#25 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:23 pm

drezee wrote:171400 1412N 06004W 7366 02733 0120 +108 -430 073037 038 999 999 03

SMFR winds are 38 kts!


It's on the descent so it is not exactly reliable data. Besides the 03 at the end suggests suspect SFMR data (00 at the end is valid).
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Re: Invest 94L Recon Discussion Thread

#26 Postby senorpepr » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:30 pm

cat5canes77 wrote:
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drezee wrote:171400 1412N 06004W 7366 02733 0120 +108 -430 073037 038 999 999 03

SMFR winds are 38 kts!


It's on the descent so it is not exactly reliable data. Besides the 03 at the end suggests suspect SFMR data (00 at the end is valid).

I thought that 38kts was the 10 second wind? The SFMR column just said 999



That's correct. SMFR is missing. 10sec gust is 38KT at flight level (~7,200ft).
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#27 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:31 pm

I'm always amazed to see these guys flying into a giant thunderstorm at 300m over endless ocean.
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#28 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:32 pm

The big question mark now is the wind direction. If we find something close to 270, we'd have a closed circulation.
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Re: Invest 94L Recon Discussion Thread

#29 Postby wxman57 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:33 pm

drezee wrote:171400 1412N 06004W 7366 02733 0120 +108 -430 073037 038 999 999 03

SMFR winds are 38 kts!


Per my post in the other discussion thread - That's what I've been pointing out. Check the 850mb (5000ft) winds across the Caribbean in advance of 94L. They're up to 35-40 kts out of the east. That's not from any circulation around 94L, it's the general wind field 94L is moving into.
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#30 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:36 pm

We now have NW winds.
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Re: Invest 94L Recon Discussion Thread

#31 Postby Thunder44 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:38 pm

Looks like they may be able to close off an LLC just NE of Barbados.
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#32 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:43 pm

Those are pretty decent N and NW winds they are finding too (and they are no longer in the suspect "03" range, but instead are labeled "00"). 30+ knots reported.
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Re: Invest 94L Recon Discussion Thread

#33 Postby Thunder44 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:45 pm

Recon obs have switched over the TC page at NHC site

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/MIAREPNT1.shtml?
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#34 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:46 pm

No west wind. Too bad. Better luck next time.

Maybe they will find something on another pass.
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#35 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:48 pm

Ernesto (TD 5) was upgraded in 2006 in the same area with a NW wind measurement.
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#36 Postby txwatcher91 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:49 pm

RL3AO wrote:No west wind. Too bad. Better luck next time.

Maybe they will find something on another pass.


Like I said, just a wave, quikscat showed no LLC and recon didn't find one. Shear increases soon, this one is done.
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#37 Postby Thunder44 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:49 pm

RL3AO wrote:No west wind. Too bad. Better luck next time.

Maybe they will find something on another pass.


I think they made the fix and passed over the center. It would actually be SE of Barbados.

Actually, I may be wrong. :wink:
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#38 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:52 pm

That would put what ever circulation is there about 30 miles ESE of Bridgetown.
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#39 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:57 pm

So we've found NW winds but not westerly winds so far, well lets see what the next pass shows...
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#40 Postby MiamiensisWx » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:57 pm

S winds have been successfully located, but a W or WSW wind vector is the key.
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