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#181 Postby RL3AO » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:40 pm

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Re: INVEST 92L in the Eastern Atlantic

#182 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:41 pm

Ive been taking the wait and see approach with this one, and I think chances are good. We dont have a big blob that moved off the coast and fizzle when it hit the water, we have storms firing on there own (good convergence). So it is able to sustain itself on its own, not just 1 complex thunderstorm that dies off when it hits the water. As well with the outstanding model support, this has a great shot IMHO.
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#183 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:48 pm

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#184 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:52 pm

here is a animation for everyone.. nice burst of convection starting..
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#185 Postby jabber » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:54 pm

Eyewall wrote:code orange now



Ohhh... thank you great one..... boy them were the days.
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Re: INVEST 92L in the Eastern Atlantic

#186 Postby wxman57 » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:57 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Ive been taking the wait and see approach with this one, and I think chances are good. We dont have a big blob that moved off the coast and fizzle when it hit the water, we have storms firing on there own (good convergence). So it is able to sustain itself on its own, not just 1 complex thunderstorm that dies off when it hits the water. As well with the outstanding model support, this has a great shot IMHO.


It does concern me that convection has flared up a bit the past 2-3 hours, but the key is if that convection can increase and persist through tomorrow. As for the model projections (DSHP) of intensity, when have they not forecast development? Most invests never develop, yet the intensity models forecast development on almost every run.

Regardless, I'm quite confident this system will be no more than an irritant in that we'll only have to issue advisories for a storm well out to sea. The 00Z position is already at 12N/19W. I don't know of any storm that's reached the Caribbean from that far north at 19W. And there should be several opportunities for it to turn safely out to sea and not be a threat to the eastern U.S. (regardless of one famous met's somewhat wishful thinking) in the next week or two. He must not have to work the 4th if it develops.

What I don't want to see is another storm like Alberto of 2000 that just doesn't know when to give up and die. ;-)
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#187 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:02 pm

ok this should work now
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decent flare up .. lets if it persists
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#188 Postby jabber » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:04 pm

I would agree with most of the folks here that say it will turn out if and thats a big if it develops. Sure fun to watch nature at work.
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#189 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:04 pm

:uarrow: That's pretty good.
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Re: INVEST 92L in the Eastern Atlantic

#190 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:06 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:Ive been taking the wait and see approach with this one, and I think chances are good. We dont have a big blob that moved off the coast and fizzle when it hit the water, we have storms firing on there own (good convergence). So it is able to sustain itself on its own, not just 1 complex thunderstorm that dies off when it hits the water. As well with the outstanding model support, this has a great shot IMHO.


It does concern me that convection has flared up a bit the past 2-3 hours, but the key is if that convection can increase and persist through tomorrow. As for the model projections (DSHP) of intensity, when have they not forecast development? Most invests never develop, yet the intensity models forecast development on almost every run.

Regardless, I'm quite confident this system will be no more than an irritant in that we'll only have to issue advisories for a storm well out to sea. The 00Z position is already at 12N/19W. I don't know of any storm that's reached the Caribbean from that far north at 19W. And there should be several opportunities for it to turn safely out to sea and not be a threat to the eastern U.S. (regardless of one famous met's somewhat wishful thinking) in the next week or two. He must not have to work the 4th if it develops.

What I don't want to see is another storm like Alberto of 2000 that just doesn't know when to give up and die. ;-)


Haaa..very true Wxman. I remember the last time I was tracking around the 4th..Dennis 05..but yeah, it has passed the 1st phase imo of being able to sustain itself without 1 huge thunderstorm complex that looks great but dies as soon as it hits the water. As you say will it be able to keep it up? As far as the ships, I honestly havnt looked at them much, brings it to a cat 2 I believe, but the globals seem to like the development chances, at least in the near term.

Track wise, looks like there will be a weakness, but the ridge might build back in later on, depending on what global model you look at. Regardless, wouldnt that be something to have a cape verde storm the start of July? Those warmer waters off Africa has something to do with that I would imagine.
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Re: INVEST 92L in the Eastern Atlantic

#191 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:06 pm

:uarrow: And look also at the big bombing of convection behind 92L.
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Re: INVEST 92L in the Eastern Atlantic

#192 Postby tropicsPR » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:08 pm

This image is updated every 15 minutes and has a nice animation

http://oiswww.eumetsat.org/SDDI/cgi/lis ... v=400,pp=0
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Re: INVEST 92L in the Eastern Atlantic

#193 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:21 pm

8 images is all i can do or the image gets to small since i can only host a certain size file...

this is a animation with a new image from the last on and a little faster..

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but its better than the alternative.. i.e no real floater yet
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#194 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:25 pm

interesting to note and a sign of organization.. the band developing to the north .. and that is going to be a good burst of convection tonight i believe! so we have a band to the south and to the north now its going to be a interesting night ..
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#195 Postby Eyewall » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:27 pm

jabber wrote:
Eyewall wrote:code orange now



Ohhh... thank you great one..... boy them were the days.



i dont get it :|
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#196 Postby brunota2003 » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:30 pm

Eyewall wrote:
jabber wrote:
Eyewall wrote:code orange now



Ohhh... thank you great one..... boy them were the days.



i dont get it :|

Maybe about the air quality Code Orange? I dunno
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Re: INVEST 92L in the Eastern Atlantic

#197 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:31 pm

Hey Aric... I think you're right man. Looks like we may have something in the morning, as long as this convection keeps up.

Especially with the upper level support and low level convergence. I'd be betting on at least a TD within 48 Hours.
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#198 Postby RattleMan » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:31 pm

Eyewall wrote:
jabber wrote:
Eyewall wrote:code orange now



Ohhh... thank you great one..... boy them were the days.



i dont get it :|

IIRC there was a user named The Great One long ago who acted ridiculously.
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Re: INVEST 92L in the Eastern Atlantic

#199 Postby Gustywind » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:33 pm

cycloneye wrote::uarrow: And look also at the big bombing of convection behind 92L.

Yeah good looking Cycloneye, waouw a big baby is on fire; amazing :eek: waves are everywhere :bday:
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Re: INVEST 92L in the Eastern Atlantic

#200 Postby MiamiensisWx » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:37 pm

I have rescinded my previous decision and I will resume posting here. I still don't believe it will develop (per my latest analysis), but the challenges of forecasting are manifesting themselves in this situation.
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