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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1661 Postby Rainband » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:08 pm

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CYCLONE MIKE wrote:Asked this in another thread only answer I got was trough over the NE US. What is supposed to cause a weakness to develop in the ridge in 2 to 3 days to turn Fay nnw or north.? What are the chances of that actually happening.? Seems to me the models are shifting more to the west now as a couple of days ago they kept shifting more to the east before she was classified.
If your in the cone pay attention, if not then no worries.

That's not good advice. Since when did people outside of cones not need to worry? One slight shift left or right and then they would be in the cone.
well then when they are in...then worry
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1662 Postby tailgater » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:10 pm

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1663 Postby sunnyday » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:13 pm

So, do most agree that SE Fl is totally out of the woods since the models keep moving westward?
Thank you for the info....
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1664 Postby canegrl04 » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:14 pm

tailgater wrote:Has this been posted yet .
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/~acevans/models/al062008.png


says I don't have permission to access.What does it indicate?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1665 Postby AdamFirst » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:14 pm

sunnyday wrote:So, do most agree that SE Fl is totally out of the woods since the models keep moving westward?
Thank you for the info....


Absolutley not?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1666 Postby lbvbl » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:15 pm

okay so what im noticing is despite the cone including the east coast of FL, it seems as if most people are leaning towards a westernly track, even more so than the current NHC track. Does anyone out there still predict a SE FL landfall? Is the likelihood still there? Why or why not?
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#1667 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:16 pm

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1668 Postby Jason_B » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:17 pm

Rainband wrote:well then when they are in...then worry
So what do people do when the cone is shifted to them 2 hours prior to landfall? Stock up and board the windows 2 hours prior to landfall? Not to mention some storms are big enough to strongly affect people (mostly due to surge) outside of the cone. Anybody who lives in hurricanes alley knows if your at least within 100 miles or so, especially in the 5-day cone, you better keep a very close eye out and be ready to take action.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1669 Postby JtSmarts » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:18 pm

Ixolib wrote:I'm sure it's been said at least a few times in all these pages on this particular thread, but I'm sure everyone remembers Katrina's early model runs. First up the east side of FL, then up the center, then up the west coast, then up to the panhandle, then over to AL, then over to MS, then over to LA... I wonder if anyone saved Katrina's model runs for future reference??

Bottom line, the shift in track could be considerably west - or perhaps not at all. Three days out and we'll know. Otherwise, it's relatively all up in the air.


Katrina's Graphic Archive:

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/KA ... hics.shtml

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It's amazing how Fay has not seen a significant reduction in convection since landfall. She is holding together better than I expected at this point.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1670 Postby AL Chili Pepper » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:20 pm

JtSmarts wrote:
Ixolib wrote:I'm sure it's been said at least a few times in all these pages on this particular thread, but I'm sure everyone remembers Katrina's early model runs. First up the east side of FL, then up the center, then up the west coast, then up to the panhandle, then over to AL, then over to MS, then over to LA... I wonder if anyone saved Katrina's model runs for future reference??

Bottom line, the shift in track could be considerably west - or perhaps not at all. Three days out and we'll know. Otherwise, it's relatively all up in the air.


Katrina's Graphic Archive:

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/KA ... hics.shtml

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It's amazing how Fay has not seen a significant reduction in convection since landfall. She is holding together better than I expected at this point.


Here's another one that has model guidance and nhc plots.

http://flhurricane.com/modelanimator.ph ... &year=2005
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1671 Postby artist » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:22 pm

canegrl04 wrote:
tailgater wrote:Has this been posted yet .
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/~acevans/models/al062008.png


says I don't have permission to access.What does it indicate?


if this doesn't work
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/~acevans/models/al062008.png

this will and then click on tracks -

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/~acevans/models/
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1672 Postby Rainband » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:24 pm

The cone wont change two hours in advance. YOU WILL HAVE plenty of time to prepare. Use common sense and you will be fine.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1673 Postby canegrl04 » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:35 pm

artist wrote:
canegrl04 wrote:
tailgater wrote:Has this been posted yet .
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/~acevans/models/al062008.png


says I don't have permission to access.What does it indicate?


if this doesn't work
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/~acevans/models/al062008.png

this will and then click on tracks -

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/~acevans/models/


Thanks.Second option worked
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1674 Postby ronjon » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:36 pm

Crap, 951 mb and 119 kt winds from the GFDL about 40 miles offshore of my house. I hope this changes over the next two days.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfdltc2.cgi?time=2008081518-fay06l&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1675 Postby tailgater » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:37 pm

canegrl04 wrote:
tailgater wrote:Has this been posted yet .
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/~acevans/models/al062008.png


says I don't have permission to access.What does it indicate?


Trying to learn photo bucket
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That's a pretty big spread.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1676 Postby lbvbl » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:41 pm

has NAM2 proved to be reliable?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1677 Postby GTStorm » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:42 pm

Going west. What 's driving this trend? Might this eventually get as far as Alabama? Mississippi?
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#1678 Postby Dean4Storms » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:45 pm

NHC has it land-falling near 31N 84W now, so they did shift the landfall to Apalachicola Bay.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1679 Postby Ixolib » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:46 pm

JtSmarts wrote:Katrina's Graphic Archive:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/KA ... hics.shtml

AL Chili Pepper wrote:Here's another one that has model guidance and nhc plots.
http://flhurricane.com/modelanimator.ph ... &year=2005
Thanks Guys!!
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1680 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:47 pm

Ixolib, I'm glad you brought that up. I mentioned that a few mornings ago when the models had it making landfall around Miami then moving west into the gulf. Surely this wont be a repeat of that track in '05. Seems there is a chance though. Seems that the models could be under-estimating the strength of ridge or over-estimating the weakness that is forecast to develop if it does at all. Everyone was so confident Katrina was going to make landfall in the panhandle or further east because all the models said so and then day after day they kept shifting west. Don't think they have a good handle of what is going on yet, will have to wait and see.
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