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#1621 Postby jinftl » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:12 pm

agree....rarely have i heard max say "likely threaten south florida' this far out...things can change of course in 120 hours, but there is an increasingly serious tone not only from local news....but more importantly, from the NHC.

JPmia wrote:Judging from Max Mayfield's voice...it was rather grave...just an observation.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#1622 Postby bucman1 » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:14 pm

What about the path once it goes throgh s.Fla?

Do you think it will move west across the state ,nw towards Tampa area,split the

state?

What do you all think as lots of people have stated it will turn north sometime?
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#1623 Postby Ocalaman » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:16 pm

Ocala in Marion County has been in a force field for 15 years or so, and the top winds we saw were Frances which were gusts to about 60-70mph. Is it possible Ike could cause Hurricane force winds if it came in anywhere from Miami area, to Cape Canaveral? Also how high could they reach this far inland? Thanks
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#1624 Postby jinftl » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:18 pm

well whether you get a cane moving through the bahamas, cuba, florida straits, south fl, or central fl...even if it is making the turn to the north already, a second landfall is a potential double bonus...the 'cane that keeps on giving, so to speak

bucman1 wrote:What about the path once it goes throgh s.Fla?

Do you think it will move west across the state ,nw towards Tampa area,split the

state?

What do you all think as lots of people have stated it will turn north sometime?
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#1625 Postby KWT » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:19 pm

jinftl, I think its because the models are starting to come into better agreement again however its still way too early yet, we don't know yet if it will even hit Florida yet alone where abouts. I think the Bahamas are looking more and more locked into a dangerous hit from a major hurricane however, the worst hit forr them probably since Floyd I suspect...
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#1626 Postby jinftl » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:23 pm

agree...the strength of the storm definitely adds to the level of concern. let's see where we are in 48 or 72 hours.....by then we will hopefully start to narrow down the threat area. sometimes being at the center of the cone at 120 hours is a good thing....given that the cone usually oscillates and shifts.

KWT wrote:jinftl, I think its because the models are starting to come into better agreement again however its still way too early yet, we don't know yet if it will even hit Florida yet alone where abouts. I think the Bahamas are looking more and more locked into a dangerous hit from a major hurricane however, the worst hit forr them probably since Floyd I suspect...
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#1627 Postby lbvbl » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:25 pm

The model consensus is really concerning considering how far out it is. There's usually more of a disagreement.
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#1628 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:31 pm

jinftl wrote:agree....rarely have i heard max say "likely threaten south florida' this far out...things can change of course in 120 hours, but there is an increasingly serious tone not only from local news....but more importantly, from the NHC.

JPmia wrote:Judging from Max Mayfield's voice...it was rather grave...just an observation.


he works in the media now and not at nhc, he can say those things if he feels like it, he is being well paid to bring it all to the table
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#1629 Postby hial2 » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:31 pm

Bluefrog wrote:Max Mayfield is like Zeus' right hand hurricane man .... :eek: :eek: :eek:



I used to umpire Max Mayfield when he used to pitch softball for a christian league..in Tropical Park,Miami
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#1630 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:32 pm

In 48 hours, we will have a much better idea of a landfall point,
I think. We will have a better grasp on the trough that may save
Florida- anybody see any troughs yet on the water vapor??
Cause I'm praying for a trough to recurve this out to sea and
away from Bermuda as well...though the current models are very
scary.
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#1631 Postby KWT » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:33 pm

Indeed this is looking like being a powerful hurricane even if the shear does weaken it like the NHC suspect, you still looking at a hurricane that if it gets a 12-24hr window could be back upto 120-140kts quite easily given its small compact size.

This set-up looks really bad for the Bahamas, their only hope is if the GFDL is right and this takes an even tougher plunge to the SW then being progged.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#1632 Postby greels » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:35 pm

For any of you who may take an interest on what is going on here on Providenciales, Turks & Caicos......

Planes are flying in to evacuate folks. Air courier service here is bringing in special charter flights to Miami and folks can take their animals.

AA is offerring a one way flight off island to US citizens who hold a valid passport.......neighbors secured a flight to Philadelphia which is all the airline could offer them.

I am afraid to ask what the price of that ticket was...

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#1633 Postby BocaGirl » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:37 pm

Everyone. Please! Let's not write off the neighborhood just yet. People are comparing Ike to Andrew, to Donna, to other awful storms. It's still a little early for that.

To the gloom and doom posters - there's still time. Tracks change. Intensity forecasts bust. Remember that, please when posting your next gloomy "gut feeling" or otherwise opinionated post about Ike.

To everyone in South Florida - check your supplies, make sure you have a plan and try to stay calm. That's tough...in the face of tv crawls, misinformation by your family and your co-workers, and long lines everywhere for sometimes unnecessary stuff (what do some people do with all that tee-pee?) ...yes, it can be tough. Stay informed. Stay smart. Panic is a luxury no one can afford right now.

In the worst case scenario, we'll make it. We're prepared. We have time. We can get through Ike. We made it through Wilma...and if you were here for the storm and the days following, you remember what that was like. We made it. We'll do it again.

In the best case scenario, we'll take a deep breath and laugh later. Maybe over a burger and beer.

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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#1634 Postby hial2 » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:37 pm

greels wrote:For any of you who may take an interest on what is going on here on Providenciales, Turks & Caicos......

Planes are flying in to evacuate folks. Air courier service here is bringing in special charter flights to Miami and folks can take their animals.

AA is offerring a one way flight off island to US citizens who hold a valid passport.......neighbors secured a flight to Philadelphia which is all the airline could offer them.

I am afraid to ask what the price of that ticket was...

Gretchen


Wow! :eek: I assume you'll be staying..I'll pray for you,your family and the islands..
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#1635 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:37 pm

Last visible pic of the day: HURAKAN,you can put some light right? :)

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#1636 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:37 pm

greels, I hope you guys prepare for the worse and hope for the best. Ike will be close to your area in a few days.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#1637 Postby Deb321 » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:37 pm

on the news here in Jax area they said they are afraid the turn north with Ike would be too late and it was too far out to know for sure just a wait and see situation.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#1638 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:39 pm

greels wrote:For any of you who may take an interest on what is going on here on Providenciales, Turks & Caicos......

Planes are flying in to evacuate folks. Air courier service here is bringing in special charter flights to Miami and folks can take their animals.

AA is offerring a one way flight off island to US citizens who hold a valid passport.......neighbors secured a flight to Philadelphia which is all the airline could offer them.

I am afraid to ask what the price of that ticket was...

Gretchen


My prayers are with everyone on the Bahamas and nearby islands that may be affected.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#1639 Postby jinftl » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:42 pm

Unless the storm is forecast to slow down significantly or stall, tomorrow should give us the first glimpse of the general area of concern that could emerge for a potential 2nd landfall as the NHC cone and track will extend into the Wednesday timeframe. Huge margin of error, but interesting to establish a trend nonetheless.
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#1640 Postby KWT » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:43 pm

Ike still looking good, personally I'd have stayed with 125kts if I was the NHC but they are the pros.

I think the problem this time is the core is expected to pass very close to the islands throughout the region and if you've got a cat-3/4 the eyewall is going to have very dangerous winds indeed, I just hope it doesn't decide to go crazy and pull an Andrew, a cat-3 bordering 4 like the NHC expects will be severe enough for the islands.
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