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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L near the Windward Islands

#1521 Postby Sanibel » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:15 am

Hi all, I live in Trinidad, what can we expect with invest 94L? Thanks.



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You should look at your national weather service's information in any storm. But as a casual poster I would say this should pass to your north as a tropical storm at most and you should just have low winds and rain.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L near the Windward Islands

#1522 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:15 am

Chacor wrote:
hurricanefloyd5 wrote:well you could get a Tropical Depression or a Tropical Storm maybe.. You could get a TS WATCH/WARNING is this thing forms.


Please don't give out false information.

I am not and I used the word COULD and I never said it would happen. It's not faulse info if I say could.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L near the Windward Islands

#1523 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:16 am

PTrackerLA wrote:With the forward speed and low latitude it's looking pretty good for gulf. I just don't see this being pulled much to the north. Thoughts?


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I don't see this surviving two days if it forms.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L near the Windward Islands

#1524 Postby jusjas » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:16 am

Thanks all, Jas from Trinidad
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L near the Windward Islands

#1525 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:17 am

PTrackerLA wrote:With the forward speed and low latitude it's looking pretty good for gulf. I just don't see this being pulled much to the north. Thoughts?
Plenty of past storms have made it into the Gulf from 94L's current position. At this point though, it is hard to say what this one in particular will do. Let's wait and see if the system develops first before speculating too much about the future path.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L near the Windward Islands

#1526 Postby gatorcane » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:19 am

RL3AO wrote:I don't see this surviving two days if it forms.


What is your reason for that statement? Look at the wind shear tendency. Conditions are marginal for development all the way across the Caribbean, and that pocket of higher shear may not be there in 3-4 days when it passes it. I'd say its got a shot of lasting longer than you think ;) In fact conditions improve for development within the 2-3 day timeframe in the Eastern Caribbean.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L near the Windward Islands

#1527 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:21 am

I knew not to count this thing out yesterday...looks like a whole new system and this cinvection has been very persistent..I think Bones came out to early :wink:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L near the Windward Islands

#1528 Postby Sanibel » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:22 am

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#1529 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:22 am

Man, this thing just doesn't want to die. When can we expect recon to arrive?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L near the Windward Islands

#1530 Postby bvigal » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:23 am

Before drawing any conclusions from pressure changes or wind speeds, take a look at location history. I compile eastern caribbean airport, buoy, and ship data every morning, 365 days/year, for 4 years now, have it all stored in spreadsheets. Rise and fall of pressure is a normal twice-daily occurance. Wind 20kts or better at Grantley Adams airport in Barbados is not unusual all year round, in fact, to me it is more unusual when they have below 15kt. Higher winds than surrounding airports are also normal for Hewanorra in St. Lucia, due to land terrain features but mostly due to ocean placement, as Atlantic ocean funnels between volcanic mountains of both St. Lucia and Martinique, and creates 'weather' and rough seas. (It is a crossing not recommended for novice sailors.)

That said, buoy at 56W has a rise in seas of 3ft over last several hours. That impresses me. Also, high resolution scatterometer this morning showed uncontaminated 40-45kt winds E and ESE of Barbados during peak cold of thunderstorm cluster, which also coincided with diurnal peak about sunrise. To me, that denotes volatility above the level of average tropical wave convection, of particular interest to mariners, especially all those people living on sailboats who's insurance companies forced them to take south for hurricane season.... better batten down and put out an extra anchor.
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#1531 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:24 am

HurricaneHunter914 wrote:Man, this thing just doesn't want to die. When can we expect recon to arrive?


I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. SUSPECT AREA...(LESSER ANTILLES)
FLIGHT ONE...TEAL 70
A. 16/1800Z
B. AFXXX 01AAA INVEST
C. 16/1545Z
D. 13.5N 56.0W
E. 16/1700Z TO 16/2200Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

18z (2 pm EDT)
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#1532 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:28 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L near the Windward Islands

#1533 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:31 am

West Wind in Trinidad! later changed to SW.

10 AM (14) Jul 16 86 (30) 75 (24) 29.94 (1014) SW 6
9 AM (13) Jul 16 86 (30) 75 (24) 29.94 (1014) W 7
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L near the Windward Islands

#1534 Postby bvigal » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:32 am

after pressure reading are Temp, Dewpoint, RD

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Le Raizet   16.27N  61.53W   7/16/2008 14:00   12 kt, ENE (70 degrees)   1015.9 mb   86.0°F   71.6°F   62%   
Canefield Airpor   15.52N  61.38W   7/16/2008 14:00   12 kt, SSE (160 degrees)   1014.9 mb   86.0°F   73.4°F   66%   
Melville Hall Ar   15.52N  61.28W   7/16/2008 14:00   11 kt, E (90 degrees)   1015.9 mb   86.0°F   73.4°F   66%   
Le Lamentin/Mart   14.60N  61.00W   7/16/2008 14:09   16 kt, NE (50 degrees)   1014.9 mb   84.2°F   75.2°F   75%   
Vigie/St Lucia   14.02N  61.00W   7/16/2008 14:00   12 kt, ENE (60 degrees)   1014.9 mb   84.2°F   77.0°F   79%   
Hewanorra Intl   13.75N  60.95W   7/16/2008 14:00   18 kt, ENE (60 degrees)   1014.9 mb   84.2°F   77.0°F   79%   
Arnos Vale/St V   13.13N  61.20W   7/16/2008 13:00   6 kt, Variable   1014.9 mb   78.8°F   75.2°F   89%   Rain Shower
Grantley Adams   13.07N  59.48W   7/16/2008 14:15   33 kt, E (100 degrees)   1014.9 mb   73.4°F   73.4°F   100%   Heavy Rain Shower
Point Salines   12.00N  61.78W   7/16/2008 14:00   2 kt, Variable   1014.9 mb   82.4°F   78.8°F   89%   
Crown Pt/Scarbor   11.15N  60.85W   7/16/2008 14:00   Calm   1014.9 mb   82.4°F   71.6°F   70%   
Piarco Int Airpt   10.58N  61.35W   7/16/2008 14:00   5 kt, SW (220 degrees)   1013.9 mb   86.0°F   75.2°F   70%   
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L near the Windward Islands

#1535 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:33 am

gatorcane wrote:
RL3AO wrote:I don't see this surviving two days if it forms.


What is your reason for that statement? Look at the wind shear tendency. Conditions are marginal for development all the way across the Caribbean, and that pocket of higher shear may not be there in 3-4 days when it passes it. I'd say its got a shot of lasting longer than you think ;) In fact conditions improve for development within the 2-3 day timeframe in the Eastern Caribbean.



Wind shear will increase again as shown by the GFS.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L near the Windward Islands

#1536 Postby cpdaman » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:36 am

this seems like it is stronger than an average tropical wave
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L near the Windward Islands

#1537 Postby senorpepr » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:37 am

Chacor wrote:
hurricanefloyd5 wrote:well you could get a Tropical Depression or a Tropical Storm maybe.. You could get a TS WATCH/WARNING is this thing forms.


Please don't give out false information. This disturbance is already north of Trinidad.


Maybe I haven't woke up yet (probably the case), but what does that have to do with anything? There are plenty of islands north of Trinidad.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L near the Windward Islands

#1538 Postby NDG » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:38 am

RL3AO wrote:
gatorcane wrote:
RL3AO wrote:I don't see this surviving two days if it forms.


What is your reason for that statement? Look at the wind shear tendency. Conditions are marginal for development all the way across the Caribbean, and that pocket of higher shear may not be there in 3-4 days when it passes it. I'd say its got a shot of lasting longer than you think ;) In fact conditions improve for development within the 2-3 day timeframe in the Eastern Caribbean.



Wind shear will increase again as shown by the GFS.


The GFS shows shows an UL anticyclone over the eastern Caribbean through the next 48hrs at least, problem might be when it gets to the central Caribbean.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L near the Windward Islands

#1539 Postby Chacor » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:40 am

senorpepr wrote:
Chacor wrote:
hurricanefloyd5 wrote:well you could get a Tropical Depression or a Tropical Storm maybe.. You could get a TS WATCH/WARNING is this thing forms.


Please don't give out false information. This disturbance is already north of Trinidad.


Maybe I haven't woke up yet (probably the case), but what does that have to do with anything? There are plenty of islands north of Trinidad.


The question was from someone in Trinidad asking what they would get.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L near the Windward Islands

#1540 Postby alan1961 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:41 am

south america bound?..thoughts anyone?
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