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#1381 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:14 pm

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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Central Atlantic

#1382 Postby boca » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:15 pm

It still looks good on this sat pic.

http://metofis.rsmas.miami.edu/~dortt/s ... 1_loop.gif
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#1383 Postby funster » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:16 pm

I'm totally bullish on this wave. The structure looks perfect. It's now starting to spittle out some crazy convection around the center. Eventually this convection will become more and more intense and we will have ourselves a TD.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Central Atlantic

#1384 Postby Category 5 » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:18 pm

Mecklenburg wrote:so far the atlantic hasn't been really friendly... i wonder what less can we expect for the remainder of the season


This is my only reply to that remark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQCU36pkH7c

Seriously, we are ahead of last years 15 storm pace. This system has plenty of time. Remember Dolly? It had the same problem and went on to become a Hurricane. Sheesh.
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#1385 Postby Cyclone1 » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:18 pm

I don't exactly understand why everyone seems to have jumped on a dissipation bandwagon. I think 92L has a very pronounced circulation right now. I expect convection to flare in the next few hours. In fact, I fully expect a tropical depression tomorrow afternoon.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Central Atlantic

#1386 Postby Sanibel » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:20 pm

This storm's history is having almost faded out completely and rebounded once already yesterday. Today 92 did a d-max around 5am. Watch for another at that same time tomorrow. Or it could really have '99L-ed.
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#1387 Postby boca » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:21 pm

HURAKAN wrote:If I post the first picture at one time and the second at another, you will say, I has weakened. But it's in fact the curvature of the Earth and the angle at which the satellite is looking at the system.

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You made a good point those satelite pics looked totally different. I then looked and it was infact the same time. The earth's curvatures can play tricks on us.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Central Atlantic

#1388 Postby curtadams » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:22 pm

Anybody posted the latest Quickscat? (Scroll down for the latest at present). It's got a low level circulation - BUT 200 miles south of the MLC (or whatever it is). So it's not about to start up - that MLC doesn't have anything like the energy needed for such a large relocation.

On another note, what's all this next invest/sayonara/au revior business? This is a strong tropical wave in August. It's not going away, and it could generate a TC more or less anytime if it hits favorable conditions. That's unlikely to change. I'm sorry if it annoys people that it's likely to remain a mid-to-low-level invest for days but that's just the way it is.
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#1389 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:22 pm

Not sure about GFDL last two seasons, but it seems to initialize fairly closely, and has a borderline Cat 3/Cat 4 at the end, so this bears watching still.
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#1390 Postby americanrebel » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:23 pm

My guess with no scientific backing is that this will be a TD by 5pm advisory Wednesday, a TS by 11 am advisory Thursday and a hurricane by 5pm advisory on Sunday. I am saying that the track would be sort of like Katrina, just North of Hispanola and head over the Keys and into the GoM by Sunday-Monday.

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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Central Atlantic

#1391 Postby Mecklenburg » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:23 pm

boca wrote:It still looks good on this sat pic.

http://metofis.rsmas.miami.edu/~dortt/s ... 1_loop.gif


not quite, i agree with derek, it's in time for it's decline... the convection seems to be spreading out coz it's about to be ka-poofed
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Central Atlantic

#1392 Postby boca » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:27 pm

I'll wait till the morning before I cross the poof fence.93L looks good on this sat as well.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/catl/loop-avn.html
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Central Atlantic

#1393 Postby funster » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:28 pm

Mecklenburg wrote:
boca wrote:It still looks good on this sat pic.

http://metofis.rsmas.miami.edu/~dortt/s ... 1_loop.gif


not quite, i agree with derek, it's in time for it's decline... the convection seems to be spreading out coz it's about to be ka-poofed


It's not ka-poofing it's ka-slowly ka-organizing ;-)
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Central Atlantic

#1394 Postby cpdaman » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:33 pm

well the convection near the MLC seems pretty consistent however the convection outside of that has been on a steady decline and this is what seems to make the storm more vulnerable........should the MLC convection die off, the system may be done for awhile, unless it has gotten itself a LLC in the last few hours.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Central Atlantic

#1395 Postby canetracker » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:34 pm

funster wrote:
Mecklenburg wrote:
boca wrote:It still looks good on this sat pic.

http://metofis.rsmas.miami.edu/~dortt/s ... 1_loop.gif


not quite, i agree with derek, it's in time for it's decline... the convection seems to be spreading out coz it's about to be ka-poofed


It's not ka-poofing it's ka-slowly ka-organizing ;-)


I don't think its time to call Bones and Jim yet. The GFDL, the EURO and the NHC is not calling for immediate development. If it crosses the rough path of shear and survives, as progged to do, we could be looking at a TD, TS etc. Time will tell.
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#1396 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:34 pm

Tomorrow should be another interesting day for 92L. A good night sleep is in order to see what happens in the morning and if RECON flies in the afternoon.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Central Atlantic

#1397 Postby cheezyWXguy » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:36 pm

cpdaman wrote:well the convection near the MLC seems pretty consistent however the convection outside of that has been on a steady decline and this is what seems to make the storm more vulnerable........should the MLC convection die off, the system may be done for awhile, unless it has gotten itself a LLC in the last few hours.

Actually Ive noticed something looking at satellite loops thats show a large portion of the atlantic tonight. I noticed that 93L just had some major bursts of convection. Then I saw it spread to the ITCZ convection in between 92 and 93. Now I notice some spots occuring on the eastern outflow of 92. Anyone notice a pattern? I get the feeling theres at least a chance that the Dmax could kick in tonight.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Central Atlantic

#1398 Postby BensonTCwatcher » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:46 pm

Who was the guy who would post the "space dust" updates. I recall he would provide somekind of link between convective activity and the number of chged particles in the solar system. Maybe he was on to something?
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Central Atlantic

#1399 Postby ROCK » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:49 pm

BensonTCwatcher wrote:Who was the guy who would post the "space dust" updates. I recall he would provide somekind of link between convective activity and the number of chged particles in the solar system. Maybe he was on to something?



that was Jim....havent seen him around much anymore.....
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#1400 Postby senorpepr » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:00 pm

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