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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#1321 Postby thetruesms » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:30 am

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CourierPR wrote:Maybe Dr. Williams has similar thoughts as Derek regarding track evolution. He has the doctorate so he must have some scientific reasoning.


exactly, so let the good doctor BRING IT, we can benefit from his insight maybe...i was told yesterday by another board member he doesnt post his thoughts, only his meterology class and some others get it, kind of like the fsu superensemble, lovely isnt it considering tax dollars but thats a whole other subject so lets stay on topic
Keep in mind that he's a professor with his own research, teaching classes, and is the director of USA's meteorology program - he's got a lot on his plate, and likely doesn't have time to offer much more than his general thoughts on it.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#1322 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:30 am

The latest pic at 9:15 AM EDT:

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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#1323 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:35 am

thetruesms wrote:
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CourierPR wrote:Maybe Dr. Williams has similar thoughts as Derek regarding track evolution. He has the doctorate so he must have some scientific reasoning.


exactly, so let the good doctor BRING IT, we can benefit from his insight maybe...i was told yesterday by another board member he doesnt post his thoughts, only his meterology class and some others get it, kind of like the fsu superensemble, lovely isnt it considering tax dollars but thats a whole other subject so lets stay on topic
Keep in mind that he's a professor with his own research, teaching classes, and is the director of USA's meteorology program - he's got a lot on his plate, and likely doesn't have time to offer much more than his general thoughts on it.


fair enough, so far i have heard his general thoughts are there is a strong possibility of the gulf coast and im only wondering what modeling or other data leads him to say something like that, maybe the original poster over did what he actually said which is why i would like to see it directly from him but based on wht i was told yesterday on this board he doesnt post which now makes me wonder where did the original poster get this strong possibility of a gulf coast hit
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#1324 Postby KWT » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:35 am

Looks like a pretty classic cat-4 there to me cycloneye, the eye has cleared out quite nicely again the last couple of hours so it may well be slightly strengthening again. western quadrants still looks a little on the slim side when it comes to convection but there is probably light shear on the system which isn't helping.

Still looks textbook, just like gustav at its peak.
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#1325 Postby boca » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:37 am

I didn't mean to come across sarcastically but I like to read his information on what he thinks Ike might do thats all.
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#1326 Postby Stormcenter » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:40 am

Even if Ike were to somehow make it into the GOM (unlikely IMO) he wouldn't get to far in before meeting up with a serious southwesterly flow that would shoot him northeast.
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#1327 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:43 am

boca wrote:I didn't mean to come across sarcastically but I like to read his information on what he thinks Ike might do thats all.


nothing wrong with asking for the info, honestly its all heresay until we see more..im discounting it all until i see him quoted or its posted by him, lets move on we have more than enough data to chew through from our pros here, nhc and model runs
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#1328 Postby carversteve » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:45 am

Anyone see accuweathers forecast path..I know it's accuweather....but kinda scarey!!
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#1329 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:47 am

carversteve wrote:Anyone see accuweathers forecast path..I know it's accuweather....but kinda scarey!!


hey you could post it for us and save us the trouble of looking

thanks,
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#1330 Postby carversteve » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:49 am

jlauderdal wrote:
carversteve wrote:Anyone see accuweathers forecast path..I know it's accuweather....but kinda scarey!!


hey you could post it for us and save us the trouble of looking

thanks,
j

I have tried the link and posting the picture...either i forgot how to do it or..ok i forget how to do it..I tried copy and paste..didn't work!
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#1331 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:49 am

jlauderdal wrote:
carversteve wrote:Anyone see accuweathers forecast path..I know it's accuweather....but kinda scarey!!


hey you could post it for us and save us the trouble of looking

thanks,
j


Its Right at S/CFL as a CAT 4 but that you should have Guessed..LOL
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#1332 Postby Sabanic » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:49 am

jlauderdal wrote:
boca wrote:I didn't mean to come across sarcastically but I like to read his information on what he thinks Ike might do thats all.


nothing wrong with asking for the info, honestly its all heresay until we see more..im discounting it all until i see him quoted or its posted by him, lets move on we have more than enough data to chew through from our pros here, nhc and model runs


All I did was state verbatum what he said. Take it for heresay or what ever. From years of listening to him though I will take seriously anything he says.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#1333 Postby boca » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:50 am

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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#1334 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:51 am

carversteve wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:
carversteve wrote:Anyone see accuweathers forecast path..I know it's accuweather....but kinda scarey!!


hey you could post it for us and save us the trouble of looking

thanks,
j

I have tried the link and posting the picture...either i forgot how to do it or..ok i forget how to do it..I tried copy and paste..didn't work!


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#1335 Postby KWT » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:51 am

Looks to me Ike is starting its bend back towards the west, still probably around 285 mind you but it does seem to be starting that turn, pretty much as forecasted by the NHC it seems.

Accuweather suggests its about to recurve. The other thing that needs to be remembered is just how the shape of the trough that eventually picks Ike will be, shaprer and it picks it up sooner, flatter and its takes longer for the turn to happen.
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#1336 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:54 am

Sabanic wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:
boca wrote:I didn't mean to come across sarcastically but I like to read his information on what he thinks Ike might do thats all.


nothing wrong with asking for the info, honestly its all heresay until we see more..im discounting it all until i see him quoted or its posted by him, lets move on we have more than enough data to chew through from our pros here, nhc and model runs


All I did was state verbatum what he said. Take it for heresay or what ever. From years of listening to him though I will take seriously anything he says.

ROLL TIDE

where and when did you hear this?
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#1337 Postby weatherbud » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:57 am

Powerful Hurricane Ike is now a Category 4 hurricane with winds of 145mph. The models used for intensity SHIPS-HWRF-GFDL did not even see this and in fact played a slow increase in intensity. So where will it go and how does this stack up against other exploding storms....

ANDREW (1992).....In 36 hours.....70mph winds to 145 mph winds
OPAL (1996).............In 24 hours....70mph winds to 150 mph winds
KATRINA (2005).......In 12 hours....115mph winds to 170mph winds

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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#1338 Postby tolakram » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:00 am

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#1339 Postby KWT » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:01 am

weatherbud, Ike was one of the fastest strengthening hurricane ever over a 12hr periods though its quite possible Ike was stronger for a time about 18hrs ago then was being estimated.
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#1340 Postby Sabanic » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:01 am

[quote="jlauderdalROLL TIDE

where and when did you hear this?[/quote]

j heard it this morning at 7:20 when he is on Sports Radio each day
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