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#1141 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:00 pm

Honeyko wrote:This very obviously has a closed circulation now, and has had persistent convection as well...what's the hold-up with declaring it a TD?

Many declared TDs have weakened to much worse-looking states, and managed to retrain a TD label.


And the RECON is in France and we're the 9th planet from the Sun. 8-)
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L - Central Atlantic - TCFA issued

#1142 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:01 pm

txag2005 wrote:What is the chance of development in everyone's opinion? Looks fairly low based on most comments on here.



In the tropics during the month of August I say any disturbance
has a chance. I would put this one at 50/50.
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#1143 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:02 pm

cycloneye wrote:
Honeyko wrote:This very obviously has a closed circulation now, and has had persistent convection as well...what's the hold-up with declaring it a TD?

Many declared TDs have weakened to much worse-looking states, and managed to retrain a TD label.


But recon has not found a LLC.


Recon needed to get a bit further South than 14.8ºN, IMHO. My amateur eyeballs are guessing that if an LLC is present (if), it is about 14.8ºN, 52.5ºW
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#1144 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:05 pm

The problem is Ed if anything is down there then there is pretty much nex to nothing in terms of convection bar a tiny amount of that sao called pop corn convection. Saying that lower pressures were found down around 14.8N but no LLC.
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#1145 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:10 pm

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Re: ATL: Invest 92L - Central Atlantic - TCFA issued

#1146 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:13 pm

well Accuweather has it headed in the general direction of Southern Florida. Go figure....
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#1147 Postby artist » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:17 pm



according to them it looks like a Jeanne or Frances hit. Let's see what tomorrow brings.
I hate this watching and waiting...
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L - Central Atlantic - TCFA issued

#1148 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:18 pm

:uarrow: Those are the mother of cones!
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#1149 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:21 pm

:uarrow:

Love how concern 1 was not down the middle of the cone because if it was it would be over Lake Okeechobee..
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#1150 Postby Honeyko » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:22 pm

Ed Mahmoud wrote:
cycloneye wrote:
Honeyko wrote:This very obviously has a closed circulation now, and has had persistent convection as well...what's the hold-up with declaring it a TD? Many declared TDs have weakened to much worse-looking states, and managed to retrain a TD label.
But recon has not found a LLC.
Recon needed to get a bit further South than 14.8ºN, IMHO. My amateur eyeballs are guessing that if an LLC is present (if), it is about 14.8ºN, 52.5ºW
I sometimes gather the strong impression that Recon needs a live chat-link to an amateur at home with a laptop in bed (he'd be wearing his pajamas, of course, being one of those "new media" types) watching VIS loops while holding a dark mouse arrow in front of various parts to see where surface elements on the south side are scooting left to right from an objective frame of reference.

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#1151 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:22 pm

artist wrote:


according to them it looks like a Jeanne or Frances hit. Let's see what tomorrow brings.
I hate this watching and waiting...



No wind shear?

Looks like between 10 and 20 knots per CIMMS, and it has the appearance of a system battling shear.
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#1152 Postby Vortex » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:22 pm

18Z NAM rolling in..

Looks like a very favorable upper air environment over the next few days..


http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L - Central Atlantic - TCFA issued

#1153 Postby jrod » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:23 pm

There is some model support for a Florida impact, obviously anything over 144hrs++++ need to be looked at with a grain of salt. Besides there are enough top pro's on here who aren't giving it much of a chance to make me doubtful at least in the short term of significant development here.

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#1154 Postby Aquawind » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:25 pm

Woah..937mb?
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#1155 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:25 pm

I think that they are talking about the future track Ed, the GFS does show a very low wind shear set-up after 48-72hrs.
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#1156 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:25 pm

recon very unimpressive

nothing to see folks
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#1157 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:25 pm

I think that they are talking about the future track Ed, the GFS does show a very low wind shear set-up after 48-72hrs.
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#1158 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:25 pm

Another SE Florida hit, looks to be very near or over Palm Beach County.

NHC gives it a high probability also so I'd say there is every reason in the world to closely monitor 92L and maybe future Fay. :uarrow: :uarrow:
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#1159 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:26 pm

12/1745 UTC 15.7N 53.2W T1.0/1.0 92L
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#1160 Postby MiamiensisWx » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:26 pm

Aquawind wrote:Woah..937mb?

It's actually ~987 mb...

It's also the long range of the Canadian model.
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