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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#1081 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:29 am

I see it Derek, also that tail is a sign that the SAL is close. So the maps at cimss are not always very good.
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#1082 Postby KWT » Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:33 am

Still looking unlikely that it forms IMO given al lthe factors seem to be starting to go against it. Convection is still trying to develop over the center but its just not enough really right now.
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#1083 Postby abajan » Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:39 am

The GDFL insists on developing 94L to a tropical storm (actually as a stronger one than predicted on the previous run) and moving its center just south of Barbados on Wednesday. The projected track is so similar to the previous one that I thought it hadn't been updated.

So I'm not letting my guard down on this one, especially with convection flaring as it is.
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#1084 Postby KWT » Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:43 am

Yes I think its still worthy of an invest and being watched but factors are starting to turn less positive still. Just like yesterday all it really needs is one large convective burst but will it get what it needs?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#1085 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:03 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:I don't expect a upgrade today unless things change big time.


Things have changed quite a bit from 6 hours ago when 94L was mostly void of any deep convection, except for some small burts near the LLC.
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#1086 Postby KWT » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:07 am

Problem is like yesterday is displaced to the west of any circulation, its no more organised then it was for most of yesterday. There has been a small convective development coser to the center over the last couple of hours however...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#1087 Postby Thunder44 » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:12 am

Looking at visible images, it looks like the center trying to tuck itself further into the convection. Also there is more inflow trying to get in from the south.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#1088 Postby ROCK » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:14 am

Thunder44 wrote:Looking at visible images, it looks like the center trying to tuck itself further into the convection. Also there is more inflow trying to get in from the south.



agreed.....need a few more frames this am.
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#1089 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:15 am

:uarrow: Maybe some good news with this system.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#1090 Postby wxman57 » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:20 am

Convection may be a little weak, but its tops are cooler than Bertha's. ;-)

I think the NHC will upgrade it later today. Let's see what the visible loops indicate.
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#1091 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:24 am

wxman57 wrote:Convection may be a little weak, but its tops are cooler than Bertha's. ;-)

I think the NHC will upgrade it later today. Let's see what the visible loops indicate.


It has a nice little LLC, but ULL has dived southward, whereas it is starting to move westward and should move south of Bertha. So expect some shear, I don't believe it will be to bad. I'm more scared of the "tail" of convection starting to form to its northeast. That is a sign of sal.
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#1092 Postby KWT » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:25 am

Thunder44, I'm waiting for Vis imagery because the center is really tough to make out on IR now, there is a convective complex further east where I think the center may be but it does look like its being sheared from the east. I personally don't think its any more organised then about 9hrs ago BUT it has got a olittle better placed convection this morning thats true. TBH I stil ldon't see a depression out of this just yet.
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#1093 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:34 am

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#1094 Postby KWT » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:38 am

There is some SAL about but its really not all that severe, not enough to prevent some sort of devlopment if it ever finally gets to that stage!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#1095 Postby Nimbus » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:39 am

Slower forward motion this morning with a good convection flare. In July it seems as though these lower latitude storms like to spin up west of 45. Usually they gain a little latitude as they spin up so I wonder if the models later today will take her north of Barbados?
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#1096 Postby KWT » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:39 am

There is some SAL about but its really not all that severe, not enough to prevent some sort of devlopment if it ever finally gets to that stage!
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#1097 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:41 am

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TC Formation
Potential  Occurrence Frequency
(ATLC / EPAC / WPAC)  Dependent Cases
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Possible (Blue) 4% 7% 5% 75%
Fair (Orange) 10% 26% 12% 25%
Good (Red) 20% 46% 18% 5%
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#1098 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:49 am

First visible,I dont see the low as yesterday when it was exposed.

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#1099 Postby KWT » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:52 am

No I think its under one of those convective masses. you can see the way the shear is displacing some of the convection to the west. Saying that it has improved since yesterday. Maybe just a little bit away from being a depression now.
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#1100 Postby Nimbus » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:57 am

The LLC looked like it was under the convection burst near 46W but with weak storms the centers can shift.
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