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#2561 Postby JonathanBelles » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:43 pm

miamicanes177 wrote:Ingrid will be passing through a Herbert Box. South Florida must pay extremely close attention to Ingrid. Many were calling for "a dagger through the heart" of Ingrid on sunday. That has not occured. In fact, it now looks better than it did on saturday! Careful monitoring of this developing situation is needed over the next few days.


GAH, the Herbert box only works when it is a major, not a TD. even if this was a major, the Herbert Box doesnt work 100% of the time.
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#2562 Postby Gustywind » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:44 pm



Absolutely Huc, agree with you on the same scenario...moreover it seems that convection bursting and trying to expand to the south and to the west side approaching 16°N...not good news for all the islands beetween Guadeloupe and the Northern Leewards islands...we should continue to closely monitor this system in the next few hours :eek: :roll:...
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#2563 Postby skufful » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:46 pm

miamicanes177 wrote:Ingrid will be passing through a Herbert Box. South Florida must pay extremely close attention to Ingrid. Many were calling for "a dagger through the heart" of Ingrid on sunday. That has not occured. In fact, it now looks better than it did on saturday! Careful monitoring of this developing situation is needed over the next few days.


Personally, I think the hebert box is the most overblown theory I've heard, and btw, I think Ingrid looks horrible compared to yesterday.
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Re: T.Depression INGRID: Discussions & Images: 11 AM page 125

#2564 Postby HUC » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:49 pm

Just an observation:have you seen that there are 5 areas of weather over the Atlantic basin,and the east Carribean, including Ingrid.The convection of all of them 5 are blown to the east or Ese by the prevailing upper level winds...Very clear on the loops;and very interesting to look at!!!!
In my location,winds always W,light(that's also is in phase with the sea breeze,in case of light wind pattern...)
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#2565 Postby RL3AO » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:50 pm

A depression struggling with high shear passing through the Herbert box is useless for predicting a track.
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#2566 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:51 pm

skufful wrote:
miamicanes177 wrote:Ingrid will be passing through a Herbert Box. South Florida must pay extremely close attention to Ingrid. Many were calling for "a dagger through the heart" of Ingrid on sunday. That has not occured. In fact, it now looks better than it did on saturday! Careful monitoring of this developing situation is needed over the next few days.


Personally, I think the hebert box is the most overblown theory I've heard, and btw, I think Ingrid looks horrible compared to yesterday.


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#2567 Postby jaxfladude » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:51 pm

:uarrow: :lol: :uarrow:
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#2568 Postby HUC » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:53 pm

Yes gustywind,the disturbance is perhaps loosing it's low circulation,but the convection may blown up now anywhere,and in the sout like now!!!!!!!!!!!! :(
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#2569 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:56 pm

Loop: http://www.goes.noaa.gov/GSSLOOPS/se1vs.html

Clouds from Ingrid's circulation moving over the Leeward Islands.
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#2570 Postby 'CaneFreak » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:56 pm

miamicanes177 wrote:Ingrid will be passing through a Herbert Box. South Florida must pay extremely close attention to Ingrid. Many were calling for "a dagger through the heart" of Ingrid on sunday. That has not occured. In fact, it now looks better than it did on saturday! Careful monitoring of this developing situation is needed over the next few days.


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-vis.html

I dont know what you are looking at but I am looking at the final stages in the life of one sheared-to- bits Ingrid. It was nice knowing you Ingrid!!! Bon voyage!!!
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#2571 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:58 pm

The LATEST at 17:45 UTC

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#2572 Postby Blown Away » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:59 pm

:uarrow: Does anybody see the LLC anymore?
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#2573 Postby miamicanes177 » Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:01 pm

'CaneFreak wrote: I dont know what you are looking at but I am looking at the final stages in the life of one sheared-to- bits Ingrid. It was nice knowing you Ingrid!!! Bon voyage!!!
Perhaps you need to read the NHC discussion from expert forecaster Pasch. In the 10am NHC discussion, Pasch writes:

"FOR THE SAKE OF CONTINUITY WITH PREVIOUS FORECASTS THAT
INDICATED DISSIPATION BY DAY 5...THE CURRENT NHC INTENSITY FORECAST
MERELY MAINTAINS INGRID AT ITS CURRENT STRENGTH. HOWEVER THE NEXT
NHC ADVISORY PACKAGE MAY NEED TO SHOW SOME RESTRENGTHENING."
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#2574 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:02 pm

'CaneFreak wrote:
miamicanes177 wrote:Ingrid will be passing through a Herbert Box. South Florida must pay extremely close attention to Ingrid. Many were calling for "a dagger through the heart" of Ingrid on sunday. That has not occured. In fact, it now looks better than it did on saturday! Careful monitoring of this developing situation is needed over the next few days.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-vis.html
I dont know what you are looking at but I am looking at the final stages in the life of one sheared-to- bits Ingrid. It was nice knowing you Ingrid!!! Bon voyage!!!


Perhaps when it's retrograded back to a wave, we'll see it blow up further down the line. Still quite a bit of convection going on there... I hope to at least see some rain, a few days down the road.
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#2575 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:06 pm

2:05 PM Special Feature Discussion by TPC.

...SPECIAL FEATURE...

TROPICAL DEPRESSION INGRID IS CENTERED NEAR 17.2N 57.9W...OR
ABOUT 260 NM/415 KM EAST OF THE LEEWARD ISLANDS ON 16/1500 UTC.
INGRID IS MOVING WEST 10 KT. THE MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WIND SPEED
IS 30 KT WITH GUSTS TO 40 KT. THE ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL
PRESSURE IS 1006 MB. PLEASE READ THE LATEST NHC
FORECAST/ADVISORY UNDER AWIPS/WMO HEADERS MIATCMAT3/WTNT23 KNHC
OR THE PUBLIC ADVISORY MIATCPAT3/WTNT33 KNHC FOR MORE DETAILS.
INGRID IS MAINTAINING ITS INTENSITY DESPITE THE HOSTILE
UPPER-LEVEL FLOW. IN FACT...THE APPEARANCE OF THE SYSTEM IS
LESS DISORGANIZED THAN IT WAS 24 HOURS AGO...WITH THE CENTER NO
LONGER EXPOSED FROM THE DEEP CONVECTION. SCATTERED MODERATE TO
ISOLATED STRONG CONVECTION IS FROM 16N-20N BETWEEN 54W-59W.


http://www.storm2k.org/wx/modules.php?n ... ge&pid=109
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#2576 Postby 'CaneFreak » Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:08 pm

miamicanes177 wrote:
'CaneFreak wrote: I dont know what you are looking at but I am looking at the final stages in the life of one sheared-to- bits Ingrid. It was nice knowing you Ingrid!!! Bon voyage!!!
Perhaps you need to read the NHC discussion from expert forecaster Pasch. In the 10am NHC discussion, Pasch writes:

"FOR THE SAKE OF CONTINUITY WITH PREVIOUS FORECASTS THAT
INDICATED DISSIPATION BY DAY 5...THE CURRENT NHC INTENSITY FORECAST
MERELY MAINTAINS INGRID AT ITS CURRENT STRENGTH. HOWEVER THE NEXT
NHC ADVISORY PACKAGE MAY NEED TO SHOW SOME RESTRENGTHENING."


Ok, but that was three hours ago. The visible shot shows that it looks even worse than 3 hours ago; lets face it, it looked ok a few hours ago before the westerly winds kicked back in again and now it looks worse than ever before. Can you find me a LLC? I would sure appreciate it.
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#2577 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:09 pm

:uarrow: Read post above yours.
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#2578 Postby Chacor » Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:11 pm

The TWD is old. Remember TWDs are based on old information (in this case, 1200z sfc analysis and sat imagery through 1715z).
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#2579 Postby fasterdisaster » Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:11 pm

'CaneFreak wrote:
miamicanes177 wrote:
'CaneFreak wrote: I dont know what you are looking at but I am looking at the final stages in the life of one sheared-to- bits Ingrid. It was nice knowing you Ingrid!!! Bon voyage!!!
Perhaps you need to read the NHC discussion from expert forecaster Pasch. In the 10am NHC discussion, Pasch writes:

"FOR THE SAKE OF CONTINUITY WITH PREVIOUS FORECASTS THAT
INDICATED DISSIPATION BY DAY 5...THE CURRENT NHC INTENSITY FORECAST
MERELY MAINTAINS INGRID AT ITS CURRENT STRENGTH. HOWEVER THE NEXT
NHC ADVISORY PACKAGE MAY NEED TO SHOW SOME RESTRENGTHENING."


Ok, but that was three hours ago. The visible shot shows that it looks even worse than 3 hours ago; lets face it, it looked ok a few hours ago before the westerly winds kicked back in again and now it looks worse than ever before. Can you find me a LLC? I would sure appreciate it.


Of course we can't find you the LLC. IT'S UNDER THE CONVECTION. That's exactly what looks so great about its appearance. And frankly I have no clue what you are talking about saying it looks worse than ever. That's just simply not true.
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#2580 Postby RL3AO » Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:12 pm

If this were to become a wave, would that support a more westward track?
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