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#1961 Postby Alacane2 » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:46 pm

Ingrid, the 8th tropical depression became the 9th named storm.
Humberto, the 9th tropical depression became the 8th named storm.
If we were placing the cyclones in order by their number, 08L - Ingrid would come before 09L - Humberto. How often does that happen?
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#1962 Postby Category 5 » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:46 pm

Alacane2 wrote:Ingrid, the 8th tropical depression became the 9th named storm.
Humberto, the 9th tropical depression became the 8th named storm.
If we were placing the cyclones in order by their number, 08L - Ingrid would come before 09L - Humberto. How often does that happen?


I'm sure it's happened several times, I just can't think of one. I'm wondering myself.
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#1963 Postby RL3AO » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:47 pm

Alacane2 wrote:Ingrid, the 8th tropical depression became the 9th named storm.
Humberto, the 9th tropical depression became the 8th named storm.
If we were placing the cyclones in order by their number, 08L - Ingrid would come before 09L - Humberto. How often does that happen?


See 2001 PHS with Erick and Dalila.
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#1964 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:50 pm

Storms with "I" names

2006 Isaac 75 knots/85 mph 985 millibars
2005 Irene 90 knots/105 mph 970 millibars
2004 Ivan 145 knots/165 mph 910 millibars+
2003 Isabel 145 knots/165 mph 915 millibars+
2002 Isidore 110 knots/125 mph 934 millibars+
2001 Iris 125 knots/145 mph 948 millibars
2000 Isaac 120 knots/140 mph 943 millibars
1999 Irene 95 knots/110 mph 958 millibars
1998 Ivan 80 knots/90 mph 975 millibars
1997 No I storm...
1996 isidore 100 knots/115 mph 960 millibars
1995 Iris 95 knots/110 mph 965 millibars
1994 No I storm
1993 No I storm
1992 No I storm
1991 No I storm
1990 Isidore 85 knots/100 mph 978 millibars
1989 Iris 60 knots/70 mph 1000 millibars the last I tropical storm. Ingrid looks to be the first I storm since to not become a cane.

+Years that the I storm was the most powerful storm.


Ingrid because of our tutt, could become the first I storm not to become a hurricane since 1989. Durning the inactive period.
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#1965 Postby Alacane2 » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:51 pm

On the NHC 2007 Advisory Archive page, the order of storm names is Gabrielle, Ingrid, Humberto (in order of cyclone number versus alphabetical order).

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2007/index.shtml
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#1966 Postby DrewFL » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:52 pm

Waste of another good name! (joke)!
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#1967 Postby 'CaneFreak » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:52 pm

Brent wrote:
RL3AO wrote:Can't wait for the waste of name posts. :D


I give it 30 minutes. :lol:

I also think this "hebert box" idea gets WAY too much attention.


This is the worst looking named system i have ever seen. I cant believe the NHC would waste a name on such a sorry looking ball of thunderstorms.


:lol:
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#1968 Postby skufful » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:54 pm

Did the TUTT just appear? It is now the main factor mentioned. Where has it been for the last 90 pages, or did it just appear?
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#1969 Postby JTD » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:55 pm

So basically, extrapolating the NHC 11 P.M. track and discussion, we have a fish storm that is going to get destroyed by a TUTT? yes?
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#1970 Postby Category 5 » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:56 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:Storms with "I" names

2006 Isaac 75 knots/85 mph 985 millibars
2005 Irene 90 knots/105 mph 970 millibars
2004 Ivan 145 knots/165 mph 910 millibars+
2003 Isabel 145 knots/165 mph 915 millibars+
2002 Isidore 110 knots/125 mph 934 millibars+
2001 Iris 125 knots/145 mph 948 millibars
2000 Isaac 120 knots/140 mph 943 millibars
1999 Irene 95 knots/110 mph 958 millibars
1998 Ivan 80 knots/90 mph 975 millibars
1997 No I storm...
1996 isidore 100 knots/115 mph 960 millibars
1995 Iris 95 knots/110 mph 965 millibars
1994 No I storm
1993 No I storm
1992 No I storm
1991 No I storm
1990 Isidore 85 knots/100 mph 978 millibars
1989 Iris 60 knots/70 mph 1000 millibars the last I tropical storm. Ingrid looks to be the first I storm since to not become a cane.

+Years that the I storm was the most powerful storm.


Ingrid because of our tutt, could become the first I storm not to become a hurricane since 1989. Durning the inactive period.


also note, the last 2 years it looked like that streak would end for a while.
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#1971 Postby Vortex » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:56 pm

I'm looking at the 00z NAM rolling in and can someone explain at H+78 it appears Ingrid is moving into the NE carribean and there is a contour encircling what appears to be Ingrid with the number 576...Thank you...

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml
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#1972 Postby AnnularCane » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:58 pm

Category 5 wrote:
Alacane2 wrote:Ingrid, the 8th tropical depression became the 9th named storm.
Humberto, the 9th tropical depression became the 8th named storm.
If we were placing the cyclones in order by their number, 08L - Ingrid would come before 09L - Humberto. How often does that happen?


I'm sure it's happened several times, I just can't think of one. I'm wondering myself.



Here's one, Dennis and Emily in 1993. Dennis became a TD a day after Emily did, but Emily took longer to be named.

http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atl ... index.html

Oh yes.... Waste of a name! Waste of a name! j/k :lol:
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#1973 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:58 pm

This one is a nightmare to predict. Although I am not really sensing the TUTT...
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#1974 Postby 'CaneFreak » Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:08 pm

Vortex wrote:I'm looking at the 00z NAM rolling in and can someone explain at H+78 it appears Ingrid is moving into the NE carribean and there is a contour encircling what appears to be Ingrid with the number 576...Thank you...

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml


Vortex, if I am not mistaken those are 1000mb-500 mb thickness lines. :wink:
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#1975 Postby miamicanes177 » Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:09 pm

Tropics_Dude83 wrote:So basically, extrapolating the NHC 11 P.M. track and discussion, we have a fish storm that is going to get destroyed by a TUTT? yes?
You can never extrapolate the NHC 5 day track out to 10+days. They have a huge margin of error at even 5 days that several hundred miles. Forecasting position 6+ days out is that much more difficult. Only look at the 5 day cone and realize that it has a historical error of about 300 miles.
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#1976 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:12 pm

I have ready for ME the biggest crow in the universe
just in case this storm does indeed get weakened by shear. :cheesy:


my accuracy rating is 5%

pretty sad, but forecasting is fun fun fun :ggreen:
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#1977 Postby boca » Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:14 pm

Will Ingrid most likely be a fish and be ripped apart by the tutt? It looks like it to me.
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#1978 Postby george_r_1961 » Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:19 pm

boca wrote:Will Ingrid most likely be a fish and be ripped apart by the tutt? It looks like it to me.



Maybe but previous runs of the GFS showed a ridge builiding over the SE US and IF that happens and IF Ingrid gets caught under that ridge we wont have a fish. Whether or not it will hit the US im not ready to say yet.
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#1979 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:21 pm

No boca..in fact that cone map is going to mislead people....the NHC shows a slight turn but as George said, the GFS shows a monster ridge building in so later cones may show a bend back to the west...

too early to say
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#1980 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:31 pm

Going back to the dessert topping comment, if shear does seriously weaken Ingrid, or even cause it to open back to a wave, the chance of fish storm recurvature actually drops.


If, the system can make a comeback on the other side of the TUTT.
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