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Re: Invest 99L,Off U.S.E.Coast: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1361 Postby cpdaman » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:07 pm

well i go away for 24 hours

because i didn't want to watch a day of "it's dead" posts

and guess what nearly everyone thinks it's dead from ALL the 20 pages i went through

but wasn't it forecast to just start getting together late tonite/tommorrow

put my money down for development

i turned the weather channel on twice today and on both intro's they were talking about it, (didn't catch the tropic. update) but it's on their mind, and accuweather's mind) wait till fri nite b-4 killing it off.
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#1362 Postby storms in NC » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:08 pm

No it has been very warm here.

And it does seem to have move more to the west.
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#1363 Postby Stormcenter » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:10 pm

Wow 63 pages for an invest and still nothing but a sheared disturbance or whatever you
want to call it.

Well the NHC still gives it hope so I will too. :D
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#1364 Postby fasterdisaster » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:13 pm

cpdaman wrote:well i go away for 24 hours

because i didn't want to watch a day of "it's dead" posts

and guess what nearly everyone thinks it's dead from ALL the 20 pages i went through

but wasn't it forecast to just start getting together late tonite/tommorrow

put my money down for development

i turned the weather channel on twice today and on both intro's they were talking about it, (didn't catch the tropic. update) but it's on their mind, and accuweather's mind) wait till fri nite b-4 killing it off.


I agree, but I'm not putting money down yet, I'd say it's a 50/50 chance here of whether or not it develops, up from 35 percent yesterday but down from 65 percent on Tuesday.
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#1365 Postby hial2 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:14 pm

Recurve wrote:From watching the NW Atl rainbow loop, if this gets going now, looks like it would head for Daytona Beach. Looks to me like lots of sinking air coming in. The center would have to get down into the tropical air.
Is it getting cool up in NC and thereabouts?


I can tell you that in Indian Trail (@ Charlotte) is NOT cool..funny thing is that after Miami's heat/humidity,it's not really bad..the locals are broiling..
If it only rain so the developers can sod my yard!!
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#1366 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:17 pm

Stormcenter wrote:Wow 63 pages for an invest and still nothing but a sheared disturbance or whatever you
want to call it.

Well the NHC still gives it hope so I will too. :D


If I have to pick between this and nothing, or this and a TW coming out of Africa, I'll pick 99L without even thinking.

We get surprised when a disturbance with a high potential to develop is ripped apart by shear and/or dry air. What happens after it does so? People go away and leave the system behind. My question then is, what did we learn from this? For many the answer is nothing because they didn't take the time to continue folowing the system to see what was affecting it, what caused it's demise. If we study closely this cases in the future this may help to identify this cases before they happen. Of course, it's so nice to always have a hurricane to look to in the satellite images.
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#1367 Postby Recurve » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:20 pm

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If...if...it got going in this area, I don't like where it's going, if I'm reading it right. Look at 850-500 steering too. I have no idea about development. But I see a crazy track toward Daytona then down to Dade then across Florida Bay, then getting lifted by a probable trought and recurving in the Gulf. Possibly three FL landfalls. I know it's contrary to all the Carolinas guidance and analysis here, but I have to consider it possible seeing the steering and considering what happens to a storm west of Florida if a strong high builds in.

But it also looks like it could get blown to a wisp heading off to the British Isles.

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#1368 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:22 pm

cpdaman wrote:well i go away for 24 hours

because i didn't want to watch a day of "it's dead" posts

and guess what nearly everyone thinks it's dead from ALL the 20 pages i went through

but wasn't it forecast to just start getting together late tonite/tommorrow

put my money down for development

i turned the weather channel on twice today and on both intro's they were talking about it, (didn't catch the tropic. update) but it's on their mind, and accuweather's mind) wait till fri nite b-4 killing it off.


sorry dude, but it's dead, even the METs here are saying that..It can't get together if there's nothing left to get together and it's running out of time anyway to become anything by the time it reaches the coast. don't waste your time with this one.
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#1369 Postby txwatcher91 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:30 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:
cpdaman wrote:well i go away for 24 hours

because i didn't want to watch a day of "it's dead" posts

and guess what nearly everyone thinks it's dead from ALL the 20 pages i went through

but wasn't it forecast to just start getting together late tonite/tommorrow

put my money down for development

i turned the weather channel on twice today and on both intro's they were talking about it, (didn't catch the tropic. update) but it's on their mind, and accuweather's mind) wait till fri nite b-4 killing it off.


sorry dude, but it's dead, even the METs here are saying that..It can't get together if there's nothing left to get together and it's running out of time anyway to become anything by the time it reaches the coast. don't waste your time with this one.


I hate to disagree with you, but since the LLC is still intact and convection is blowing up over the center, it is not dead. The fact that shear is lessening is also helping this system. Anyway, most models did not have it doing much until Friday.
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#1370 Postby Recurve » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:31 pm

It is so hard to give up on a nearly naked swirl. It's so....enticing.
:oops:
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#1371 Postby ronjon » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:32 pm

Ok, is it time for the Star Trek "It's Dead Jim"? :D I will personally give it to tomorrow morning. If this doesn't develop this classifies as the biggest model bust of modern history.
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#1372 Postby hial2 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:34 pm

Recurve wrote:It is so hard to give up on a nearly naked swirl. It's so....enticing.
:oops:


Cold showers help.... :D
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#1373 Postby Wthrman13 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:38 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:
sorry dude, but it's dead, even the METs here are saying that..It can't get together if there's nothing left to get together and it's running out of time anyway to become anything by the time it reaches the coast. don't waste your time with this one.


Well, I can't speak for the other mets, but I for one don't think it's quite done yet. Don't get me wrong, it is definitely not developing right now, but it still has a significant low-level circulation, and shear does appear to be decreasing. As is typical, the models decreased the shear and weakened the UL over the system too rapidly. I admit, I didn't expect the poor conditions to persist this long, and it's definitely possible that the system will dissipate.
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#1374 Postby Recurve » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:39 pm

Cold showers help.... :D




Since there's not much to talk about, pardon my HA!
That was funny. :lol:
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#1375 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:44 pm

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#1376 Postby Bane » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:58 pm

Re[size=150][/size]curve wrote:From watching the NW Atl rainbow loop, if this gets going now, looks like it would head for Daytona Beach. Looks to me like lots of sinking air coming in. The center would have to get down into the tropical air.
Is it getting cool up in NC and thereabouts?


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no, it was 90 degrees today.
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#1377 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:07 pm

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#1378 Postby Extremecane » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:08 pm

looks like finally a thunderstorm formed over the LLC, wait and see if it does anything
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#1379 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:13 pm

TWD 805:

A NON-TROPICAL 1009 MB LOW ABOUT 350 MILES SOUTHWEST OF BERMUDA
AT 28N70W REMAINS DISORGANIZED. A SURFACE TROUGH EXTENDS SW
FROM THE LOW TO THE BAHAMAS NEAR 22N76W. WHILE UPPER-LEVEL
WINDS ARE UNFAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT...THEY COULD BECOME MORE
FAVORABLE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS...AND THERE IS STILL SOME
POTENTIAL FOR THIS SYSTEM TO BECOME A TROPICAL CYCLONE. THE LOW
IS DRIFTING ERRATICALLY AT THIS TIME...BUT IS EXPECTED TO MOVE
GENERALLY TOWARD THE NORTHWEST OVER THE NEXT DAY OR SO.
SCATTERED MODERATE CONVECTION IS WELL E OF THE LOW CENTER FROM
28N-31N BETWEEN 64W-67W. SCATTERED SHOWERS ARE WITHIN 60 NM OF
THE TROUGH AXIS.
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#1380 Postby cpdaman » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:20 pm

i think the low part of the trough may be starting to wash out

shear lessening anyone

t-storms near llC not getting blown off
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