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Re: Invest 99L,Off U.S.E.Coast: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1221 Postby vacanechaser » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:03 am

Regit wrote:
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marcane_1973 wrote: The Atlantic sure is quiet being near the peak of the season.


ummm what?

Dean? Felix? Cat 5's? Quiet? :roll:


I'm pretty sure marcane was referring to this moment in time, meaning it looks quiet right now. Not that the season overall has been dead.



thats what i was going to say... you people are too quick to jump on people here... geezzz, relax :D


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Re: Invest 99L,Off U.S.E.Coast: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1222 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:04 am

marcane_1973 wrote:I say if 99L does not get going by Friday evening then it is time to kiss this baby goodbye. Looks like 99L is being absorbed into that trough. The Atlantic sure is quiet being near the peak of the season.


I guess you haven't seen the wave that's about to roll off Africa that models are developing. Looks really good to me and others.
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#1223 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:05 am

ANOMALIES:

09062007:
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Matt, maybe is that we don't understand everything related to the effects of ENSO/El Niño or La Niña phenomena, but if in 2002 we had a weak El Niño, then right now we must be experiencing at least a weak La Niña.
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#1224 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:06 am

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Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:Except the Caribbean the Atlantic looks like we are going through a El nino like pattern.


Last I checked that isn't a bad thing.



That is a point of view thing. We might not see eye to eye on this?
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Re: Invest 99L,Off U.S.E.Coast: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1225 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:07 am

ConvergenceZone wrote:I guess you haven't seen the wave that's about to roll off Africa that models are developing. Looks really good to me and others.


Models were and still are developing 99L. Until I see the wave getting better organized over the ocean, then there is nothing to cheer about. We always commit the same error every time a system looks promising and models are pushing for development.
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#1226 Postby Category 5 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:09 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:
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Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:Except the Caribbean the Atlantic looks like we are going through a El nino like pattern.


Last I checked that isn't a bad thing.



That is a point of view thing. We might not see eye to eye on this?


Considering I live an in area thats occasionally threatened by tropical systems I guess we don't. But hey, thats ok, you can't agree with everyone on everything.
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Re: Invest 99L,Off U.S.E.Coast: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1227 Postby marcane_1973 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:11 am

Regit wrote:
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marcane_1973 wrote: The Atlantic sure is quiet being near the peak of the season.


ummm what?

Dean? Felix? Cat 5's? Quiet? :roll:


I'm pretty sure marcane was referring to this moment in time, meaning it looks quiet right now. Not that the season overall has been dead.


Exactly. Thank you :D
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#1228 Postby Category 5 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:12 am

my apologies then Marcane_1973 I misunderstood you.
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Re: Invest 99L,Off U.S.E.Coast: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1229 Postby marcane_1973 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:16 am

Category 5 wrote:my apologies then Marcane_1973 I misunderstood you.


No problem. It's all good. :D
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#1230 Postby OuterBanker » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:25 am

Come on Rocky, you can do it. You have been beat up for several days now, and beat bad. But not you gotta chance, get up off that canvas and show em what you got. Somebody give Popeye a can of spinach.

Hey, that little llc has lasted through very hostile conditions for some time. I gotta believe :lol:
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Re: Invest 99L,Off U.S.E.Coast: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1231 Postby Stormcenter » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:25 am

HURAKAN wrote:
marcane_1973 wrote:I say if 99L does not get going by Friday evening then it is time to kiss this baby goodbye. Looks like 99L is being absorbed into that trough. The Atlantic sure is quiet being near the peak of the season.


It's not being absorbed by the trough. If you look at a loop the LLC seems to be almost stationary and separated from the trough.

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I'm sorry but that is painful to look at. I mean come on what is it? :D
Seriously though it looks even more pathetic then it did yestesday when
a lot of folks were crying foul at the NHC for not classifying it a TD or TS.
Yes as I said yesterday it could still form into something but i wouldn't hold
my breath that it will a Cat.2-3 storm like again some on this board were
predicting.
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Re: Invest 99L,Off U.S.E.Coast: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1232 Postby dwg71 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:27 am

ConvergenceZone wrote:
marcane_1973 wrote:I say if 99L does not get going by Friday evening then it is time to kiss this baby goodbye. Looks like 99L is being absorbed into that trough. The Atlantic sure is quiet being near the peak of the season.


I guess you haven't seen the wave that's about to roll off Africa that models are developing. Looks really good to me and others.


Waves off of Africa rarely develop. It's very rare.
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#1233 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:29 am

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This is like a patient in intensive care, you just need to wait how it responds over the next 24 hours.
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#1234 Postby KWT » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:31 am

stormcenter, it looks way worse then yesterday, at least yesterday you could make a claim it was a depression with its strong convection and SAt.Estimates backing up that idea, today it really does look one step away from poof, can just about make out the LLC still underneath the sheared clouds.

(dwg---i presume you means waves that come Africa rarely develop til lthey get further west???)
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#1235 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:34 am

KWT wrote:(dwg---i presume you means waves that come Africa rarely develop til lthey get further west???)


Or if you consider the # of waves that leave Africa every year divided by the # that actually develops, then his claim is right.
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#1236 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:45 am

For those saying this is dead, remember we still have a closed circulation! It just needs to detatch itself more and fire up and we have TD7...
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#1237 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:47 am

Latest QuikSCAT - still closed around 28.7°N 69.2°W

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#1238 Postby windstorm99 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:48 am

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Re: Invest 99L,Off U.S.E.Coast: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1239 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:49 am

windstorm99 wrote:Image


It looks quite a bit better than it did 4 hours ago (clearly see clouds surrounding the center)...diurnal maximum?
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#1240 Postby KWT » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:56 am

HURAKAN wrote:Or if you consider the # of waves that leave Africa every year divided by the # that actually develops, then his claim is right.


don't want to take it off-topic but that may true for the whoel year but for August/September the percentage shows its not actually all that rare for waves to form, i remember someone saying between 20-40% of the waves develop, of course that means more don't form then do but its not exactly rare!

It looks a touch better then a few hours ago but it still looks like its in very bad shape right now and is still getting sheared.
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