Ex-Ingrid north of Leewards

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#121 Postby punkyg » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:54 am

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/tafb/ATSA_06Z.gif
In this link it say ex ingrid has a low with it.
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Re: Ex-Ingrid (still on NRL) north of Leewards (Threads Merged)

#122 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:00 am

Hey folks,it has T Numbers again!.

19/1145 UTC 21.1N 64.2W T1.0/1.0 08L -- Atlantic Ocean
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Re: Ex-Ingrid (still on NRL) north of Leewards (Threads Merged)

#123 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:05 am

cycloneye wrote:Hey folks,it has T Numbers again!.

19/1145 UTC 21.1N 64.2W T1.0/1.0 08L -- Atlantic Ocean



Same on page 6 Luis... 8-)
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#124 Postby gatorcane » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:06 am

It's back folks ---- the shear couldn't get her. Thanks for editting the title.

Oh boy. Now lets see how strong she gets.

Sheared systems are always the most dangerous as they can avoid recurvature but remain intact and wait down the road to develop.

and looks like Ingrid may have some of these plans of her own.
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Re: Ex-Ingrid north of Leewards makes comeback

#125 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:07 am

This thread is moved to this forum as NRL is active with it again and also is getting T Numbers.
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#126 Postby gatorcane » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:09 am

Notice she is in about 20K of shear instead of 30K plus and look is what out ahead of her just about 100 miles. Only 10K of shear and is decreasing as we speak as a narrow ridge continues to push in from the North.

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#127 Postby mattpetre » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:13 am

This should be interesting over the next few days. If ex-Ingrid does make a comeback, does she get a new name? Someone should do a poll as to which storm will reach the greatest intensity 93L or ex-Ingrid. I'm not putting my vote in till someone creates the poll :)
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#128 Postby umguy1 » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:19 am

I love a good comeback story.
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#129 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:20 am

This should have a good chance of developing. All the models forecast the development of an anticyclone over the top of this.
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Re: Ex-Ingrid north of Leewards makes comeback

#130 Postby canegrl04 » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:21 am

Holy Cow :eek: She gets the comeback of the year award if she becomes a hurricane
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Re: Ex-Ingrid north of Leewards makes comeback

#131 Postby alienstorm » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:21 am

The question is now what direction she will head in? TAFB is forecasting a Northward movement, however the canadian is moving her slowly out to the west. Maybe some pro's can chime in with their analysis.
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Re: Ex-Ingrid north of Leewards makes comeback

#132 Postby boca » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:22 am

Ex-Ingrid has been on the navy site since yesterday afternoon when I mentioned it.Where does it go from here.
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#133 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:23 am

should move WNW as there is a building ridge north of it. Should block it in there.
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#134 Postby MiamiensisWx » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:25 am

Ingrid's remnants are situated beneath the base of the TUTT and an upper low, so you see low shear on the CIMSS charts. Air Force Met discussed this situation in the 93L thread. Ingrid is not coming "back from the dead". Shear is probably ~20-25 kts at the upper levels. Don't focus on the 850-700 mbar (low-level) shear. I still think 93L has much better chances (in the Gulf of Mexico) than Ingrid's remnants.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/loop-wv.html

Additionally, this system may not move W if any LLC establishes itself further N.
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#135 Postby Chacor » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:38 am

Models aren't being run on it yet, unlike Ivo, 93L or 98E.
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Re: Ex-Ingrid north of Leewards makes comeback

#136 Postby gatorcane » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:50 am

canegrl04 wrote:Holy Cow :eek: She gets the comeback of the year award if she becomes a hurricane


canegirl this is no surprise to me as I have said before.

I'll continue to be watching her and looking at the ULL winds which are key. As far as movement as some of us have been wondering, lets take a look at the mean mid-level flow currently (which of course will change) (see below). She is currently being steering largely by the low level flow but it is similar to the mid-level around Ingrid (probably more E to W) so I will refer to the mid-level flow here

We can see the ridge north of Ingrid and the flow looks to be NW BUT that ULL over Florida (area near 93L) is progged to move West by the global models. The ridge over the Southern US is going to move east and build eastward merging with the high that is off the East Coast of the US now. This is not a surprise either. Pro Mets and myself have been forecasting strong CONUS ridging since late last week.

What this means is that a blocking ridge is going to setup by the weekend that will keep her on a W to WNW movement. She may move NW for a bit now but should bend back to the West over the next couple of days. I am then forecasting the ULL winds to gradually relax as she goes under the influence of strong ridging to the north.

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Re: Ex-Ingrid north of Leewards makes comeback

#137 Postby rockyman » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:57 am

umguy1 wrote:I love a good comeback story.


2 comeback stories come to mind...Andrew and Katrina...the 2 costliest hurricanes in US history both made comebacks east of the Bahamas...both then hit south Florida then Louisiana
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#138 Postby gatorcane » Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:18 am

Puerto Rico satellite image until the floater is moved back to Ingrid:
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/pr.html

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Re: Ex-Ingrid north of Leewards makes comeback

#139 Postby boca » Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:21 am

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Re: Ex-Ingrid north of Leewards makes comeback

#140 Postby gatorcane » Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:24 am

boca wrote:Here's the floater its back.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-ir2.html


Interesting the NHC moved it back so quickly.

Would not be surprised to see a slightly different tone in the next discussion -- although since the NHC is conservative maybe expect something like "although conditions are not favorable now, conditions may gradually become somewhat more favorable over the next couple of days as it moves WNW."

I am very shocked there is not more interest in this system ATM. I forsee it will really draw this board's attention gradually over the next couple of days and will be the next one this board is closely monitoring.
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