Student tasered by police after causing a disturbance
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O Town wrote:Omg, what a sissy boy.
He deserved it IMO, he shouldn't have resisted, simple as that.
Pardon me, but how on earth do you have any grounds to say a single word you just said?From what we can see in the video, this kid has done nothing wrong. Even if he has done something wrong, then at the very least they should ask him to stop before hauling him off. How in the world can you say he deserved it? HE WAS BEING ABUSED. If I was that kid I'd sue their asses and laugh as I got my $100,000 for police violence.
Also, 'Omg, what a sissy boy'??? Please explain what you mean. And if you think you can do better than him and not yell in pain when a thousand volts are immediately zapped into your body, then please, you're welcome to post a video of yourself doing better. I don't think anyone, yourself included, would not resist when you're being dragged off with no movement possible after you've done nothing wrong.
Sorry I'm being such a jerk but please think about what kind of things you just said.
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Tstormwatcher wrote:Did nothing wrong? He was resisting arrest, creating a public disturbance and fighting the police. he deserved what he got. He's a big mouth idiot.
So you are saying that trying to endorse one's own right to free speech is now worthy of being tasered? With all due respect, that really IMO doesn't fit with what this country stands for.
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Using a taser on him is definitely excessive use of force, as he wasn't a threat to anyone. The police should have just quickly escorted him out.
EDIT: As far as I can tell, he didn't do anything wrong. The police grabbed him as soon as he asked his question (however conspiracy-laden and absurd it was, and I'm a liberal). John Kerry was actually about to answer the question.
EDIT: As far as I can tell, he didn't do anything wrong. The police grabbed him as soon as he asked his question (however conspiracy-laden and absurd it was, and I'm a liberal). John Kerry was actually about to answer the question.
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absolutely the police let it get way out of hand. Way too excessive force, im glad they got it on tape. The police department has to take full responsibilty as to what happened. The guy was just speaking out , if people werent allowed to speak their opinions, then why have that kind of forum to begin with.
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I hope the police get fired for this!!!!!!I hope to god that he do not get any heart problems from this or this mean BIG $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for him.
OH one other thing have anybody on this forum every been Tasered???I have and it feel like !@#$!!!!!!When I worked for a grocery store in the mid 90's a manger walked around with one and if you were not stocking fast enoght you got ZAPPED!!!!!!60,000bolts do not feel good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OH one other thing have anybody on this forum every been Tasered???I have and it feel like !@#$!!!!!!When I worked for a grocery store in the mid 90's a manger walked around with one and if you were not stocking fast enoght you got ZAPPED!!!!!!60,000bolts do not feel good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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He was clearly fighting the police and resisting arrest. He deserved what he got. He was warned to stop resisting before he was tasered. If he would have cooperated he probably would have been released on a summons either at the scene or at the station.
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george_r_1961 wrote:He was clearly fighting the police and resisting arrest. He deserved what he got. He was warned to stop resisting before he was tasered. If he would have cooperated he probably would have been released on a summons either at the scene or at the station.
Well, I guess our 1st right amen is now in the trash then.All the boy was asking a question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Even John Kerry told the police he was going to answer the Question!!!!I have family who is cops for the county and even they say they over done it because the boy just asked a question.(a question even they would like to know)
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BUD wrote:george_r_1961 wrote:He was clearly fighting the police and resisting arrest. He deserved what he got. He was warned to stop resisting before he was tasered. If he would have cooperated he probably would have been released on a summons either at the scene or at the station.
Well, I guess our 1st right amen is now in the trash then.All the boy was asking a question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Even John Kerry told the police he was going to answer the Question!!!!I have family who is cops for the county and even they say they over done it because the boy just asked a question.(a question even they would like to know)
When a cop puts his hands on u..whether u think its justified or not, the best thing to do is relax and do as u are told. At no time does anyone have the right to resist or fight an officer because they dont feel like they did anything wrong.
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george_r_1961 wrote:BUD wrote:george_r_1961 wrote:He was clearly fighting the police and resisting arrest. He deserved what he got. He was warned to stop resisting before he was tasered. If he would have cooperated he probably would have been released on a summons either at the scene or at the station.
Well, I guess our 1st right amen is now in the trash then.All the boy was asking a question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Even John Kerry told the police he was going to answer the Question!!!!I have family who is cops for the county and even they say they over done it because the boy just asked a question.(a question even they would like to know)
When a cop puts his hands on u..whether u think its justified or not, the best thing to do is relax and do as u are told. At no time does anyone have the right to resist or fight an officer because they dont feel like they did anything wrong.
Now I do agree with that. also a update two of the police are now on leave!!!!
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Alright, all I saw was some annoyed guy ask a question...however, we do not know what happened prior to his question...maybe something he didnt like that could of quickly turned into a riot? That is the one thing I hate about videos like that, you do not see what occured prior to the actions...
It appeared to me the police were trying to just escort him out of there, but he decided to resist it and then continue on his way of stirring the pot...then they decided to place him under arrest for disturbing the peace/creating a public disturbance, once he resisted arrest, they clearly warned him to stop or he was going to be tasered. He refused and kept trying to fight the police some and they tasered his rear.
The reason why the others didnt try to help? If 8 or so officers, with guns and tasers, were there, would you try to fight them? I'm sure they had plenty of handcuffs to go around, an officer carries 3 or 4 on him/her typically (or at least my dad did when he was in Corrections...). So that makes about 24 sets, plus whatever back-up has, plus 8 guns...I dont think I'd go against that.
It appeared to me the police were trying to just escort him out of there, but he decided to resist it and then continue on his way of stirring the pot...then they decided to place him under arrest for disturbing the peace/creating a public disturbance, once he resisted arrest, they clearly warned him to stop or he was going to be tasered. He refused and kept trying to fight the police some and they tasered his rear.
The reason why the others didnt try to help? If 8 or so officers, with guns and tasers, were there, would you try to fight them? I'm sure they had plenty of handcuffs to go around, an officer carries 3 or 4 on him/her typically (or at least my dad did when he was in Corrections...). So that makes about 24 sets, plus whatever back-up has, plus 8 guns...I dont think I'd go against that.
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Police added that Meyer was Tasered because he resisted when officers were attempting to place him in handcuffs. His lawyer, Robert Griscti, said it appeared Meyer was shocked after the cuffs were already on.
Just before Monday's scuffle started, Meyer asked a woman to tape his exchange with Kerry. One officer said the woman was "there to film him" and that Meyer asked, "Are you taping this? Do you have this? You ready?" before beginning his question.
Another officer said the 22-year-old woman said she was in line to ask a question ahead of Meyer when she was asked to tape, but she did not know him.
Meyer refused to leave the microphone after his allotted time was up, police said. He had asked Kerry about impeaching President Bush, why he didn't challenge the 2004 election results and whether he and Bush were members of the secret society Skull and Bones at Yale University.
After Meyer repeatedly and loudly refused to walk away, two officers took him by the arms. Kerry can be heard saying, "That's all right, let me answer his question."
Audience members applauded, though it was difficult to tell whether it was for the officers' action or Kerry's remark. The audience for the most part sat quietly and watched the fracas.
Meyer struggled for several seconds as up to four officers tried to remove him from the room. He screamed for help and tried to break away from officers with his arms flailing, then was forced to the ground and ordered to stop resisting.
As Kerry told the audience he will answer the student's "very important question," Meyer yelled at the officers to release him, crying out, "Don't Tase me, bro," just before he was shocked. He was led from the room, screaming, "What did I do?"
An officer, however, said in the police report that Meyer's "demeanor completely changed once the cameras were not in sight" and that he was "laughing" and "lighthearted" on the way to jail.
Kerry, D-Mass., said Tuesday he regretted that a healthy discussion was interrupted, and said he never had a dialogue end that way in 37 years of public appearances.
"Whatever happened, the police had a reason, had made their decision that there was something they needed to do. Then it's a law enforcement issue, not mine," he told The Associated Press in Washington.
Meyer was arrested on charges of resisting an officer and disturbing the peace but the State Attorney's Office had yet to make the formal charging decision. Police recommended charges of resisting arrest with violence, a felony, and disturbing the peace and interfering with school administrative functions, a misdemeanor.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070919/ap_ ... DN8KxH2ocA
Well, if it was some kind of practical joke, looks like he got the short end of his own joke.
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I've seen the video. I've seen the whole question. All I saw was an innocent person. Sure he was annoying, and sure he was being a flake, but uhhhh, arresting a person because they ask a controversial question?
I'm sorry but that is absolutely ridiculous.
And brunota, I think they mean he was asking the woman to film him because of the question he was going to ask, not because he planned to stage an arrest or something(sorry if you meant that, lol kind of hard to tell).
There was NO REASON WHATSOEVER for those officers to even lay a hand on him. A place where the police can simply drag someone out of a building is a police state, not a democracy. It was up to John Kerry and John Kerry alone to decide whether the question was fit to answer, and multiple times he said that it was fine. The police should not have been involved unless a person was at risk of endangerment, and that was by far not the case.
I'm sorry but that is absolutely ridiculous.
And brunota, I think they mean he was asking the woman to film him because of the question he was going to ask, not because he planned to stage an arrest or something(sorry if you meant that, lol kind of hard to tell).
There was NO REASON WHATSOEVER for those officers to even lay a hand on him. A place where the police can simply drag someone out of a building is a police state, not a democracy. It was up to John Kerry and John Kerry alone to decide whether the question was fit to answer, and multiple times he said that it was fine. The police should not have been involved unless a person was at risk of endangerment, and that was by far not the case.
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I saw the video of this on CNN earlier today, and I don't think that the kid did anything that was worthy of arrest. The police overracted in my opinion in this situation. He wasn't doing anything that was physically threatening to the officers (his hands were above his head in much of the vid shown on CNN and he did not show a weapon). I don't think that he should be charged with anything.
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In hindsight he shouldn't have resisted, BUT the officers had no right to place their hands on him. It's a major misconception in America that police officers get to do anything they want with you. I once had an officer grab my arm and the sheriff called me the next day to apologize and offered to help me file assault charges against the officer if I desired.
I think the case will be thrown out. A jury would likely view it as a violation of free speech justifiable civil disobedience.
I think the case will be thrown out. A jury would likely view it as a violation of free speech justifiable civil disobedience.
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