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It is truly shocking to see congress acting in a bipartisan manner to actually increase our national security instead of just grandstanding about it or limiting freedoms. Good job!

In the end its a bad deal for the US that it was killed and another black eye for the US. Instead of evaluating the deal on its merits and judged in the light of day it was ridiculed for racist reasons...why because they are Arabs. If you knew how much of American industry and debt is held by arabs now it would shock you.

Besides our warships stop in the UAR ports at Dubai more than anywhere else in that part of the world and are always treated very well.

Security issues were adressed as part of the deal...No Arab nationals would have had any part of the security of our ports...nonetheless even without this deal our ports are the biggest cause for fear currently because shippers are on the honor system sas to what they are carrying on the manifest.

What is truly shocking is that people judged this deal based on the political sentiments expressed by the politicians of both parties and what was written in the papers.....hardly ever the information needed to make an intelligent decision.

Pondbuilder wrote:In the end its a bad deal for the US that it was killed and another black eye for the US. Instead of evaluating the deal on its merits and judged in the light of day it was ridiculed for racist reasons...why because they are Arabs. If you knew how much of American industry and debt is held by arabs now it would shock you.
Besides our warships stop in the UAR ports at Dubai more than anywhere else in that part of the world and are always treated very well.

Security issues were adressed as part of the deal...No Arab nationals would have had any part of the security of our ports...nonetheless even without this deal our ports are the biggest cause for fear currently because shippers are on the honor system sas to what they are carrying on the manifest.

What is truly shocking is that people judged this deal based on the political sentiments expressed by the politicians of both parties and what was written in the papers.....hardly ever the information needed to make an intelligent decision.

actually, it wouldnt shock me, but why give them any more??? and it's not the deal itself as much as the fact that the deal did not undergo the usual processes as such deals in the past have undergone. the whole thing just appeared to be underhanded to me. (just my opinion...) screaming racism is just a detraction from the real issue: our national security.

Go here http://www.drudgereport.com Now the UAE wants to make threats in retaliation,proving it was a bad deal from the start.China didn't do this when the UniCal deal was nixed

And the racists win again....what is this, 1950?

if protecting our national security is racist, then by all means, we should be racist as our national security MUST be protected, no matter what others demean that as

The UAE is not a threat to our security. This is no different than a company not hiring a black man because they worry that is/will be a criminal.

I thought we got past this decades ago, but appearantly not.

The UAE has been a strong ally of the US throughout the War on Terror, and this is simply a smack in the face to them. Lumping all Arabs together is terrorists is no different than lumping all whites together as KKK thugs...

Their race has nothing to do with it. What does have something to do with it is the fact that the UAE government owns DP World and the UAE government has close ties to OBL and Al Quaeda.

nystate wrote:And the racists win again....what is this, 1950?

i agree with you completely. i doubt anyone on this board could explain rationally exactly what this deal meant. this arab company has shipped hundreds of millions of containers to the united states and guess what? not a single bomb. and here is something else. our ally in the war on terror, australia has their 2 biggest port managed by this same arab company since 2000, melbourne and sydney. and guess what? no bombs reported.

did you know that the uae, saudi arabia, and kuwait operate non-stop flights to the united states? and not a single politician has demanded this stop. remember, these are evil arabs!! they could fly into a building at the last second before they land, or pack a plane full of bombs. we have no way of checking a non stop flight. but guess what? since 9/11 thousands of these flights have landed in the united states, and guess what? not a single bomb.

here is something else to ponder. were you aware that american soldiers have died because france, russia, and germany sold thier vetoes to saddam for bribe money? its odd, however, that no politician has demanded they dis-invest from america

nystate is 100% correct

canegrl04 wrote:Go here http://www.drudgereport.com Now the UAE wants to make threats in retaliation,proving it was a bad deal from the start.China didn't do this when the UniCal deal was nixed

you may be interested to know that china is a close ally of iran, who makes daily threats to the united states. oh, and china manages some ports on the west coast. and venezuela, whose president chavez makes daily threats to the united states, and who is a close ally of iran, owns refineries inside the united states. should we shut down those refineries?
where does this "righteous" crusade end?

rainstorm wrote:

canegrl04 wrote:Go here http://www.drudgereport.com Now the UAE wants to make threats in retaliation,proving it was a bad deal from the start.China didn't do this when the UniCal deal was nixed

you may be interested to know that china is a close ally of iran, who makes daily threats to the united states. oh, and china manages some ports on the west coast

Your comments in your last post and this one are right on. I think the figure was that Chinese companies hold about 60% of the port facilities in San Francisco.

gtalum wrote:Their race has nothing to do with it. What does have something to do with it is the fact that the UAE government owns DP World and the UAE government has close ties to OBL and Al Quaeda.

did you know that the uae was the first arab nation after 9/11, on sept 22 2001, i think, to renounce terror and side with us? do you also realize how much courage it takes for a small nation in al quedas heartland to do that?
also, are you aware the us navy signed a deal with uae owned companies to maintain, repair and supply american warships? and guess what? they have done an outstanding job. are you also aware that more us military ships dock in the uae than any nation on earth, other than here itself. and did you know how valuable that is to us. and finally, are you aware none of those ships have been destroyed to date?

this was a decision based on fear, not facts

Not to mention that the DPW spent 6.8 to 8 billion dollars on this deal. Last time I checked, sneaking a bomb into the United States on any one of 95% of unchecked cargo ships was a lot cheaper.

And not to mention that the UAE donated over twice as much money for Hurricane Katrina relief than all other nations, combined.

Merovingian wrote:

rainstorm wrote:

canegrl04 wrote:Go here http://www.drudgereport.com Now the UAE wants to make threats in retaliation,proving it was a bad deal from the start.China didn't do this when the UniCal deal was nixed

you may be interested to know that china is a close ally of iran, who makes daily threats to the united states. oh, and china manages some ports on the west coast

Your comments in your last post and this one are right on. I think the figure was that Chinese companies hold about 60% of the port facilities in San Francisco.

thanks. there must be some reason these brave politicians arent demanding china get away from our ports now!! and here is something rather odd. did you know there have been no complaints from san francisco, that china, who sides with our most dangerous enemy iran, get out of it ports? and yet, the city council of san francisco refused to allow a us military ship to be docked at those chinese ports, to be used as a museum to honor our brave military?

Merovingian wrote:Not to mention that the DPW spent 6.8 to 8 billion dollars on this deal. Last time I checked, sneaking a bomb into the United States on any one of 95% of unchecked cargo ships was a lot cheaper.

And not to mention that the UAE donated over twice as much money for Hurricane Katrina relief than all other nations, combined.

great post

nystate wrote:The UAE is not a threat to our security. This is no different than a company not hiring a black man because they worry that is/will be a criminal.

I thought we got past this decades ago, but appearantly not.

The UAE has been a strong ally of the US throughout the War on Terror, and this is simply a smack in the face to them. Lumping all Arabs together is terrorists is no different than lumping all whites together as KKK thugs...

i agree completely

rainstorm wrote:

Merovingian wrote:Not to mention that the DPW spent 6.8 to 8 billion dollars on this deal. Last time I checked, sneaking a bomb into the United States on any one of 95% of unchecked cargo ships was a lot cheaper.

And not to mention that the UAE donated over twice as much money for Hurricane Katrina relief than all other nations, combined.

great post

Thanks. I'm just disappointed in the fearmongering on Capitol Hill.

Merovingian wrote:

rainstorm wrote:

Merovingian wrote:Not to mention that the DPW spent 6.8 to 8 billion dollars on this deal. Last time I checked, sneaking a bomb into the United States on any one of 95% of unchecked cargo ships was a lot cheaper.

And not to mention that the UAE donated over twice as much money for Hurricane Katrina relief than all other nations, combined.

great post

Thanks. I'm just disappointed in the fearmongering on Capitol Hill.

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