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Whatta bunch of B.S.!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:26 pm
by azsnowman
HEY Pres........take THIS :lol:

http://www.azcentral.com

Oil prices renews interest in cow manure as energy

Betsy Blaney
Associated Press
Aug. 22, 2005 08:30 AM

LUBBOCK, Texas - As oil prices soar, cow manure is getting more attention as an alternative fuel source, particularly in Texas, the country's biggest producer of cow patties.

For years, researchers have studied manure as a fertilizer. But at a time when state and federal energy bills have called for increasing renewable energy sources, there is more focus on developing cow dung as an alternative to coal or natural gas.

"I see it as a valuable tool in our tool box," said John Sweeten, resident director of the Texas Agricultural Experiment Station in Amarillo. "Sixty-dollar-a-barrel oil recruits a lot of interest in biomass. At $10-a-barrel oil, there's not much interest." advertisement




The Panda Group of Dallas plans to fuel a $120 million ethanol plant set to open next year in Hereford with cow manure and other waste. The company said it will realize an energy savings equivalent to 1,000 barrels of oil per day turning manure and cotton gin waste into clean-burning fuel to power the plant.

Biomass is renewable organic matter, such as manure and crops like corn, grain sorghum and soybeans, all of which can be processed into ethanol.

"Anything that's renewable and is at least competitive with other prices, it's better for everybody," said Donald L. Klass, director of Biomass Energy Research Association in Washington.

With more cattle, dairy cows and hogs coming to the Texas Panhandle, and with farmers moving toward planting more dryland crops that demand less fertilizer, the potential for surplus manure is great.

Nearly 5 million head of cattle come to about 100 area feedyards each year. While there, they produce billions of pounds of manure.

"It's almost too good not to use," said David Parker, a professor of agriculture at West Texas A&M University.

Researchers at a feedlot are trying to figure out the best process and mix of manure to create the most useable heat and energy.

A future research project will examine the use of manure from dairy cows which, like swine manure, requires a different process to capture the energy, Sweeten said. But cattle for meat outnumber other concentrated animal feeding operations in the Texas Panhandle.

Sweeten said manure contains at best about a third to a quarter of the energy value as coal, so transporting it far from where it's produced is impractical. Thus, Sweeten said manure-generated energy would only be used regionally.

"You don't get as much bang for your buck" with manure compared to coal, he said.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:28 pm
by azsnowman
ROFLMAO!! I just read the last line....."Don't get as much BANG for the BUCK?!!!!" Eat mo' beans :grrr:

Dennis 8-)

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:28 pm
by Aslkahuna
Hey, Tucson Electric Power uses methane from the nearby landfill to fire on of their generators.

Steve

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:31 pm
by azsnowman
Aslkahuna wrote:Hey, Tucson Electric Power uses methane from the nearby landfill to fire on of their generators.

Steve


LOL!!! I thought you were gonna say "Methane from ACROSS the BORDER!"

Dennis 8-)

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:36 pm
by breeze
I dunno, Dennis - I've heard the phrase "so-and-so is slow
as smoke off of s...." well, you get the picture!

Anybody see that "South Park" episode where Butter's Dad
was experienting with methane gas, and, encouraging
the townspeople to far...well, pass gass...and they ended up
making a hole in the ozone over South Park? Hmmmm....
another issue! :lol:

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:39 pm
by azsnowman
Why shucks, there MIGHT be a SHORTAGE of "Cow Chips" for the 28th Annual "Cow Chip" tossing tourney this Labor Day Weekend up 'chere in the mountains!!

Dennis 8-)

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:57 pm
by kevin
breeze wrote:I dunno, Dennis - I've heard the phrase "so-and-so is slow
as smoke off of s...." well, you get the picture!

Anybody see that "South Park" episode where Butter's Dad
was experienting with methane gas, and, encouraging
the townspeople to far...well, pass gass...and they ended up
making a hole in the ozone over South Park? Hmmmm....
another issue! :lol:


Well since all the gasses are already in a natural cycle, it wouldn't matter. :D

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:06 pm
by chadtm80
HEY Pres........take THIS Laughing

:roll:

Dennis with all this complaining about how the Pres is ALLOWING gas prices to go up, you have not mentioned what it is he can/should do about it.

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:51 am
by azsnowman
chadtm80 wrote:
HEY Pres........take THIS Laughing

:roll:

Dennis with all this complaining about how the Pres is ALLOWING gas prices to go up, you have not mentioned what it is he can/should do about it.


I take it you don't listen to the news, read the national papers then?? Come on Chad, lighten up, let's face it...... :roll:

Dennis :roll:

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:55 am
by wxcrazytwo
The pres can do alot to minimize the gas prices. Will he do, NOPE. What for he likes oil companies..

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:11 am
by kevin
The President invaded Iraq. Then he fumbled and didn't have enough troops on the ground to secure the oil facilities. Now not only did he cause the futures market to raise the price of oil, but he also effected supply by not being able to keep Iraq pumping out legal or illegal oil.

The President could open the strategic oil reserves, though I'd like for him to wait until there is something physical he could do (knock off Chavez if Venezeula stops selling oil), before taking that step.

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:17 am
by Amanzi
azsnowman wrote:
Aslkahuna wrote:Hey, Tucson Electric Power uses methane from the nearby landfill to fire on of their generators.

Steve


LOL!!! I thought you were gonna say "Methane from ACROSS the BORDER!"

Dennis 8-)


You maybe onto something there Dennis!!!!!!!! Refried beans may be the future crude...... :eek: :eek: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:47 am
by wxcrazytwo
Amanzi wrote:
azsnowman wrote:
Aslkahuna wrote:Hey, Tucson Electric Power uses methane from the nearby landfill to fire on of their generators.

Steve


LOL!!! I thought you were gonna say "Methane from ACROSS the BORDER!"

Dennis 8-)


You maybe onto something there Dennis!!!!!!!! Refried beans may be the future crude...... :eek: :eek: :lol: :lol:


What comes out the other end afte eating refried beans is "crude and unusual punishment."

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:06 am
by chadtm80
azsnowman wrote:
chadtm80 wrote:
HEY Pres........take THIS Laughing

:roll:

Dennis with all this complaining about how the Pres is ALLOWING gas prices to go up, you have not mentioned what it is he can/should do about it.


I take it you don't listen to the news, read the national papers then?? Come on Chad, lighten up, let's face it...... :roll:

Dennis :roll:

Still have not answered Dennis 8-) BTW.. Be free thinking.. Dont always listen to what you read

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:36 am
by azsnowman
I AM a free thinker Chad, why do you think I've made it in Law Enforcement?

Anyway.....here's a little something to read!!


http://www.opensecrets.org/bush/cabinet.asp


Dennis 8-)

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:53 pm
by breeze
(*breeze slamming the desktop with both fists...)

LOL...is this a Bush Beans commercial, in the making?

*Pfffffffhhhhhhhtttt!!!! :lol:

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:00 pm
by coriolis
Annette, I'd give you a high five for that, but I'm holding my nose with one hand, and trying to swoosh it away with the other.

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:06 pm
by breeze
:lol: My word, Jeeves! It's that blimey sewage smell, again, eh?