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Stones target 'hypocrite' patriots in new song
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:41 am
by sunny
Someone please tell me I am reading this wrong.
reuters.com
Stones target 'hypocrite' patriots in new song
Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:20 AM ET
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The Rolling Stones, not exactly a band at the forefront of rock 'n' roll activism, are taking aim at the American right with a new song on their upcoming album, according to Newsweek magazine.
The track, "Sweet Neo Con," boasts the line, "You call yourself a Christian, I call you a hypocrite/You call yourself a patriot, well I think you're full of s---," according to the weekly newsmagazine.
"It is direct," singer Mick Jagger was quoted as saying, adding that his collaborator, Keith Richards, was "a bit worried" about a backlash because the guitarist lives in the United States and Jagger does not.
"Sweet Neo Con" is one of 16 tracks featured on the Stones' new album, "A Bigger Bang," which comes out in the United States on Sept. 6, and a day earlier internationally. It was not featured on a 12-track advance CD circulated to critics. The group's publicist was traveling and not able to confirm the quoted lyrics or provide the complete lyrics.
The band is currently rehearsing in Toronto ahead of a world tour that begins on Aug. 21 in Boston.
In their 43-year career, the Stones have observed political developments in songs like 1968's "Street Fighting Man," but have generally avoided taking sides. Notable exceptions included the 1983 single "Undercover (of the Night)," about civil rights abuse in Latin America, and 1991's Gulf War-related track "Highwire."
Reuters/VNU
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:44 am
by GalvestonDuck
Wonder what his fellow Brits will have to say about it.
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:49 am
by sunny
Well, Sir Mick has my feathers ruffled (no pun intended Duckie!).
Re: Stones target 'hypocrite' patriots in new song
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:50 am
by wxcrazytwo
sunny wrote:Someone please tell me I am reading this wrong.
reuters.com
Stones target 'hypocrite' patriots in new song
Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:20 AM ET
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The Rolling Stones, not exactly a band at the forefront of rock 'n' roll activism, are taking aim at the American right with a new song on their upcoming album, according to Newsweek magazine.
The track, "Sweet Neo Con," boasts the line, "You call yourself a Christian, I call you a hypocrite/You call yourself a patriot, well I think you're full of s---," according to the weekly newsmagazine.
"It is direct," singer Mick Jagger was quoted as saying, adding that his collaborator, Keith Richards, was "a bit worried" about a backlash because the guitarist lives in the United States and Jagger does not.
"Sweet Neo Con" is one of 16 tracks featured on the Stones' new album, "A Bigger Bang," which comes out in the United States on Sept. 6, and a day earlier internationally. It was not featured on a 12-track advance CD circulated to critics. The group's publicist was traveling and not able to confirm the quoted lyrics or provide the complete lyrics.
The band is currently rehearsing in Toronto ahead of a world tour that begins on Aug. 21 in Boston.
In their 43-year career, the Stones have observed political developments in songs like 1968's "Street Fighting Man," but have generally avoided taking sides. Notable exceptions included the 1983 single "Undercover (of the Night)," about civil rights abuse in Latin America, and 1991's Gulf War-related track "Highwire."
Reuters/VNU
sounds true to me.

Re: Stones target 'hypocrite' patriots in new song
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:51 am
by sunny
wxcrazytwo wrote:sounds true to me.

Let me get this right - you are calling me a hypocrite because I call myself a patriot?
Re: Stones target 'hypocrite' patriots in new song
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:53 am
by wxcrazytwo
sunny wrote:wxcrazytwo wrote:sounds true to me.

Let me get this right - you are calling me a hypocrite because I call myself a patriot?
I think he means the president, sunny. Not, the Americans themeselves.
Re: Stones target 'hypocrite' patriots in new song
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:55 am
by sunny
wxcrazytwo wrote:sunny wrote:wxcrazytwo wrote:sounds true to me.

Let me get this right - you are calling me a hypocrite because I call myself a patriot?
I think he means the president, sunny. Not, the Americans themeselves.
The Rolling Stones, not exactly a band at the forefront of rock 'n' roll activism,
are taking aim at the American right with a new song on their upcoming album, according to Newsweek magazine.
That says it all crazy.
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:56 am
by GalvestonDuck
Don't forget, the PA is closed.

Re: Stones target 'hypocrite' patriots in new song
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:57 am
by wxcrazytwo
sunny wrote:wxcrazytwo wrote:sunny wrote:wxcrazytwo wrote:sounds true to me.

Let me get this right - you are calling me a hypocrite because I call myself a patriot?
I think he means the president, sunny. Not, the Americans themeselves.
The Rolling Stones, not exactly a band at the forefront of rock 'n' roll activism,
are taking aim at the American right with a new song on their upcoming album, according to Newsweek magazine.
That says it all crazy.
Exactly the American Right. Not all Americans, and not all americans are right winged (conservs). Right wing is usally associated with the word "Neo-Con". I don't know why...
Re: Stones target 'hypocrite' patriots in new song
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:00 am
by sunny
wxcrazytwo wrote:Exactly the American Right. Not all Americans, and not all americans are right winged (conservs). Right wing is usally associated with the word "Neo-Con". I don't know why...
Per Duckie - I am backing off. But I think you are wrong - lol.
Re: Stones target 'hypocrite' patriots in new song
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:05 am
by gtalum
wxcrazytwo wrote:Right wing is usally associated with the word "Neo-Con". I don't know why...
"Neoconservative" is a word coined by some Republicans during the 1980's. Everyone else calls them "neocons". Reagan and Bush 41 were true neocons, Bush 43 is just your run of the mill economic left-wing liberal and social right-wing conservative in a similar (but not as extreme) vein to the old Soviet government.
Re: Stones target 'hypocrite' patriots in new song
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:08 am
by GalvestonDuck
sunny wrote:wxcrazytwo wrote:Exactly the American Right. Not all Americans, and not all americans are right winged (conservs). Right wing is usally associated with the word "Neo-Con". I don't know why...
Per Duckie - I am backing off. But I think you are wrong - lol.
The discussion was going fine -- very civil. Just wanted to remind everyone so that no one said anything that ruffled any more feathers.

Re: Stones target 'hypocrite' patriots in new song
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:12 am
by sunny
GalvestonDuck wrote:sunny wrote:wxcrazytwo wrote:Exactly the American Right. Not all Americans, and not all americans are right winged (conservs). Right wing is usally associated with the word "Neo-Con". I don't know why...
Per Duckie - I am backing off. But I think you are wrong - lol.
The discussion was going fine -- very civil. Just wanted to remind everyone so that no one said anything that ruffled any more feathers.

Okay - got cha

Re: Stones target 'hypocrite' patriots in new song
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:23 am
by Lindaloo
wxcrazytwo wrote:I think he means the president, sunny. Not, the Americans themeselves.
That is irrelevant. If he is bashing the President, he is also bashing ME.
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:29 am
by j
I was never a big Stone's fan anyway. If you grew up in the 60's it was the Beatles or the Stones, very rare to like both. Mick can't sing, is painful to even look at, and the one time I've seen them, back in 1981, they were absolutely terrible. JMO - and now that he's joining the American hating activists who for some reason think anybody cares what they have to say in the first place.
You would think they all would have learned from the Dixie Chicks to shut up.
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:51 am
by gtalum
j wrote:You would think they all would have learned from the Dixie Chicks to shut up.
Learned what? That they'll sell their tour out if they criticize the president?
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:21 pm
by Lindaloo
I wonder what happened to the Dixie Chicks?

Haven't heard anything out of them for a while.
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:22 pm
by gtalum
Well they went on tour and sold out every stop.
Latest is they're working on their next album.
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:28 pm
by j
gtalum wrote:Well they went on tour and sold out every stop.

Latest is they're working on their next album.
It isn't surprising to me to see them sell out. After all, look around you. It's not that difficult to find an American hating military bashing activist, perhaps even 10,000 or so in your city. Sad, but true.
However, it cannot be denied that their reputation is severly tarnished and their fan base has shrunk. So what if they are putting out another album?? I was entertained at the golf course last night by some guitar playing wanna be, with CD's for sale for $5.
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:32 pm
by gtalum
LOL!
The fact is, thei rbase changed, but it didn't shrink. For every mouthbreathing redneck "patriot" that believed the ClearChannel-initiated boycott, some moron left-wing hack took their place. The lesson is, most people really just don't care about politics.
I'm positive that the Dixie-Chicks laugh all the way to the bank every day.