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No confirmation yet but ground intelligence from Iraqies led to the building where Saddam and other leaders of the regime including his sons may haved been and then many bombs of 5,000 pounds fell there and leveled the building and it is believed that nobody came out of that building before it was hit but more confirmation later.

Let's hope that it is confirmed.

I really hope Saddam and his sons were in there and we got them...

The bombing of that place was at 2:00PM local time in Baghdad morning in the US but it will take some time to verify if really Saddam and his sons were are that place.

2:00 PM in Baghdad, Iraq is 6:00 AM ET, 5:00 AM CT, 4:00 AM MT and 3:00 AM PT, early Monday morning, here in the United States.

Pictures show nothing but a pile of rubble where the building once was. If they were there I don't know how anyone could have gotten out. However, I have heard at least one report that said people were being carried out alive, which I find ludicrous after the pictures shown on Fox.
Al Jazeera and Abu Dhabi TV are both saying they have been targeted and are off the air. Just saw a live picture of an explosion that was very close to the AD position a few minutes ago!

Did we get him or not? I thought we had 3 weeks ago, but the report of his prexence was by CIA today when the hit was made.

The Bomb was a JDAM.. from a B-1.which is dam curious.Why use an designed electronic jamming explosive?Yes,they are Bunker Busters..however,there seems to be some concernt that Command and Control may have been present in that sector.Moreover,it was a restaraunt,where supposedly high ranking B'athe Party Officials were meeting to plan some sort of regrouping of the Sinister Thuggary.The restaraunt was reduced to rubble by 8K Lbs of JDAMs...Interesting,2 sites,2 strikes.
The Bldg I saw was not leveled.It was a precision strike of extreme competance.I find it curious that we would use such tactics knowing full well,an identifiable Saddam and Co is paramount.Why use a sledge hammer to squash an ant?This is very very curious to me.It seems abit too cute and very convenient.We need to have proof..not more mysteries.
Now it appears that the Brits have reported that Chemical Ali may infact have survived his bout with the same sort of hit.
I doubt Saddam was in that Bldg,nor do I believe that his Sons were there either.Politically,we need Saddam,dead or alive I suppose to quell the local resistance.This 'game' we play can backfire if we are not careful.Here we go again.

I saw the pile of rubble too...8000 pounds of bombs...I don't see how anybody could have survived that.

The Pentagon says it could take 3 days to confirm. I think he's dead.

southerngale wrote:I saw the pile of rubble too...8000 pounds of bombs...I don't see how anybody could have survived that.

The Pentagon says it could take 3 days to confirm. I think he's dead.

#1)IF there was a bunker it is possible..however,I agree surviving that barrage is unthinkable.
#2)Why do believe he is dead?Do you assume he was there?Now reports say..as many as 60 ppl were in attendance at the meeting.IF so,that is the B'athe Party Gov in whole.Wiped out.
#3.)I find this unlikely.Any Moron with any Miltitary background knows,an assemblege of the entire Party in one location is beyond risky,even if the coalition forces were not in his backyard.With the knowledge of our location within Baghdad and air support,his scenario,albiet possible,is very unlikely.
4.)As stated..we need to quell the resistance.We need our own propoganda machine in high gear.
5.)We learned our lesson from WW2 and Hitler.No Body,no closure in the long run.It took many years to clear this up.Then there is the issue of Body Doubles.
6.)Ground forces need to secure this scene ASAP to eliminate any chance of 'evidence' being tampered with.
7.)The US Gov now says,it will take 3 days to 'confirm' the supposed results.How tidy.3 days?3.4 days?DNA?We need Body Tissue for that.********So..do we Have this to test*********?????Hmmmmmmm.
8.)He is<IMO IF he is in Iraq,in:
A.)The Tunnel Network,in Baghdad.
B.)In Syria
C.)In Mosul
D.)In his Hometown.
WE shall see.

No confirmation yet about if Saddam was killed with his sons and other leadership.

It takes time to gather the evidence to confirm it but i hope that soon enough we will know.

From what I understand, the CIA knew of his whereabouts. It was confirmed but no bomb strike. After the second confirmation is when we dropped the bombs.

Saddam and Sons were planning an escape out of Baghdad, possibly to Syria. He was seen going into this restaurant. Could have been a diversion (body double) so he could slip out of the country. JMO.

Sure could be Linda, your right.

Another possability, Maybe we are just saying we got him so his regime will stop fighting against us? No leader no need to fight?? Just another scenerio i thought of.

chadtm80 wrote:Sure could be Linda, your right.

Another possability, Maybe we are just saying we got him so his regime will stop fighting against us? No leader no need to fight?? Just another scenerio i thought of.

The same scenario I addressed at length.You may want to review it again.
I have no doubt that this is a smoke and mirrors game aimed at quelling resistance.Understandable...but risky.

We have to remember this man hasn't been seen in public by his people in three years. Yes we have memorex of him - IMO plastic surgery isn't out of the question either....money can buy anything with him. Another tentacle to the cat and mouse game as preluded to by Arizwx. The story continues.

Patricia

Arizwx wrote:

southerngale wrote:I saw the pile of rubble too...8000 pounds of bombs...I don't see how anybody could have survived that.

The Pentagon says it could take 3 days to confirm. I think he's dead.

#1)IF there was a bunker it is possible..however,I agree surviving that barrage is unthinkable.
#2)Why do believe he is dead?Do you assume he was there?Now reports say..as many as 60 ppl were in attendance at the meeting.IF so,that is the B'athe Party Gov in whole.Wiped out.
#3.)I find this unlikely.Any Moron with any Miltitary background knows,an assemblege of the entire Party in one location is beyond risky,even if the coalition forces were not in his backyard.With the knowledge of our location within Baghdad and air support,his scenario,albiet possible,is very unlikely.
4.)As stated..we need to quell the resistance.We need our own propoganda machine in high gear.
5.)We learned our lesson from WW2 and Hitler.No Body,no closure in the long run.It took many years to clear this up.Then there is the issue of Body Doubles.
6.)Ground forces need to secure this scene ASAP to eliminate any chance of 'evidence' being tampered with.
7.)The US Gov now says,it will take 3 days to 'confirm' the supposed results.How tidy.3 days?3.4 days?DNA?We need Body Tissue for that.********So..do we Have this to test*********?????Hmmmmmmm.
8.)He is<IMO IF he is in Iraq,in:
A.)The Tunnel Network,in Baghdad.
B.)In Syria
C.)In Mosul
D.)In his Hometown.
WE shall see.

Why do I say he is dead? Clearly I'm not an expert, but that's just what I think (and hope). I haven't heard reports of 60 people in there. I guess I missed that report. I've heard Saddam, his sons, and possibly 12 other Iraqi government officials. And workers, etc. I'm sure. I doubt anyone really knows how many people were in there.

Anyway, yes I assume he was in there because our intelligence said he was. Of course they could have been wrong or he could have slipped out another exit (tunnel maybe) but if that's the case, we'll know soon enough. It was confirmed twice before we dropped 4 tons of bombs on him though. I just have a feeling we got him. Let's hope I'm right.

I heard last night that there were as many as 14 people in the building that was bombed early Monday afternoon in Baghdad; around dawn Eastern Time in the United States (middle of the night in the Pacific Time Zone). With the reports of people in the building a certain number of people are apparently dead. Will sure be interesting to see if it is indeed Sudaam and/or his two sons.