Should the US help North Korea in wake of train disaster?

#1 Postby **cycloneye** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 1:56 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... index.html

As all know NK and the US are at odds about the nuclear program that Nk has and the US wants Kim Jon Ill to get rid of them but at this time should the US go and help them with medical assistance,food,clothes? I think that tensions about the nukes has to be secondary at this time and go in and try to help them deal with this tragic event of last week. I say the word try because NK may not want US assistance but let's give it a try.

#2 Postby **vbhoutex** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 2:01 pm

I'm not one to deny humanitarian aid if it is needed AND REQUESTED. If it has been requested and specifically of our government or agencies in the US that can help I say yes.

However, the last count of the dead that I saw was 139 with close to 2000 injured. Definitely a major tragedy, but not the thousands of deaths originally feared and not as overwhelming as originally thought. Now don't flame me for sounding uncaring because I am not that way. I just want to be sure all is in perspective before we go running in and giving aid. Of course, if someone finds information that is verifiable of the original thousands of deaths I will stand corrected.

Rainband · #3 Postby **Rainband** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 2:07 pm

I am on the fence here. :roll:

Dunno

Derek Ortt · #4 Postby **Derek Ortt** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 2:09 pm

Nope! Not when war could break out with them at any moment

GalvestonDuck · #5 Postby **GalvestonDuck** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 2:18 pm

Financial, sure...but limited.

But hands-on help in NK? No way.

#6 Postby **streetsoldier** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 2:25 pm

I'd favor "hands-on" assistance, as long as a surgically precise regime change was an unstated part of it.

JQ Public · #7 Postby **JQ Public** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 2:59 pm

I think we should help them. After all they are being ruled by a corrupt dictator. You cannot punish the people for their leader...especially if they didn't put him into that position. Although the crash isn't half as bad as first thought...i don't see why we couldn't help them unless Kim Jong-il says otherwise. I don't know what kind of help i'd give...maybe money? Maybe army folk? But I think we're stretched thin no matter what Bush says.

#8 Postby **janswizard** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 3:45 pm

I'm not a member there and so I can't post but I read a very interesting thread at http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?s=40e16115852435438f33a6260b1a3321&threadid=97523 at Timebomb 2000 about this train wreck/explosion in North Korea.

If anyone is interested in reading that thread, I'd be interested in hearing what you all think about their hypothesis.

rainstorm · #9 Postby **rainstorm** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 3:58 pm

Colin · #10 Postby **Colin** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 5:10 pm

Yes, I would...I think it would send a message to the NK agency/government that we care for other people...just my thoughts so, and I'm sure I don't understand 99% of it...it's probably MUCH more complicated than that.

rainstorm · #11 Postby **rainstorm** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 5:17 pm

nice guys finish last. if they want our help, then they need to show their gratitude.

#12 Postby **Stephanie** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 5:21 pm

I "kind of" agree with your last statement Helen. I would hope that something positive would come out of helping NK. I think it's the humane thing to do and I can't imagine how it wouldn't be looked upon postively.

Lindaloo · #13 Postby **Lindaloo** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 5:30 pm

We did offer to help and NK declined. There are other countries that offered help and were refused. They accepted help from China but would only accept it at the border. Just goes to show you that dictatorship needs to go and he could careless about the suffering of his own people.

#14 Postby **Stephanie** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 5:42 pm

I thought that they then requested help after it was initially offered.

sunnyday · #15 Postby **sunnyday** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 5:56 pm

Did Jesus only help people that others liked? Seems like he helped prostitutes, tax collectors, etc. I remember something about a good Samaritan, too.......

chadtm80 · #16 Postby **chadtm80** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 5:57 pm

Dont compare a Nation To Jesus ;-)

Im on the Fence as well.. I dont think now would be a good time though

sunnyday · #17 Postby **sunnyday** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 6:03 pm

I'm not comparing a nation to Jesus. I'm simply saying that people who call ourselves Christians are supposed to follow Jesus' example in all things, including helping those who need help.

Lindaloo · #18 Postby **Lindaloo** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 6:25 pm

We did offer humanitarian aide sunnyday and we were declined. Maybe you should tell that to the dictator of North Korea.

BEER980 · #19 Postby **BEER980** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 6:11 am

janswizard I thought the small nuke is a intersting possibility. The body count should be much higher. I sent you a PM over a week ago did you get it? Let me know.

j · #20 Postby j » Tue Apr 27, 2004 6:40 am

Yes.....but in out National interest, only do it conditionally, and the conditions are obvious.

We have to stop giving and getting nothing in return!

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