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#1 Postby janswizard » Sun Feb 01, 2004 4:17 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2& ... &printer=1

N. Korea Tests Weapons on People, Gases Inmates-BBC
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By Peter Apps

LONDON (Reuters) - A program made by Britain's BBC says North Korea (news - web sites) is killing political prisoners in experimental gas chambers and testing new chemical weapons on women and children.

Titled "Access to Evil" and being aired on Sunday, the program features an official North Korean document that says political prisoners are used to test new chemical weapons.

In a statement, the BBC said the documentary included comments by Kwon Hyuk, a new name given to a former military attache at the North Korean embassy in Beijing and chief of management at Prison Camp 22.

Using a drawing, he describes a gas chamber and the victims he says he saw at the prison in the northeast of the secretive communist state, near the Russian border.

"I witnessed a whole family being tested on suffocating gas and dying in the gas chamber. The parents, son and a daughter. The parents were vomiting and dying, but till the very last moment they tried to save kids by doing mouth-to-mouth breathing," he said.

"Normally, a family sticks together (in the gas chamber)... and individual prisoners stand separately around the corners. Scientists observe the entire process from above, through the glass."

Asked how he felt about the children, he said: "It would be a total lie for me to say I felt sympathetic about the children dying such a painful death. Under the society and the regime I was in at the time, I only felt that they were the enemies. So I felt no sympathy or pity for them at all."

The documentary for the BBC's "This World" series was to be broadcast at 9 p.m. (2100 GMT).

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North Korean officials in London were unavailable to comment. BBC journalist Olenka Frenkiel told Reuters she had three independent confirmations that Kwon Hyuk was genuine.

The human rights group Amnesty International said it had been unable to confirm previous reports of such testing.

"We have heard of these allegations but we cannot confirm them," a spokeswoman said.

North Korea -- described by President Bush (news - web sites) as part of an "axis of evil" because of a nuclear weapons program and authoritarian system -- has denied accusations of human rights abuses.

A top-secret North Korean document also says political prisoners are used for "human biological experimentation and for production of biological weapons," the BBC said.

It interviews a person said to be a former prisoner in North Korea who had been ordered to poison others.

"An officer ordered me to select 50 healthy female prisoners. One of the guards handed me a basket full of soaked cabbage, told me not to eat it but to give it to the 50 women," Sun Ok Lee said, according to the BBC statement.

"All who ate the cabbage leaves started violently vomiting blood and screaming with pain. It was hell. In less than 20 minutes, they were quite dead."

Frenkiel said she had also seen other official North Korean documents, one of which referred to the transfer of a prisoner "for the purpose of human experimentation of liquid gas for chemical weapons" in February 2002.
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#2 Postby stormchazer » Sun Feb 01, 2004 7:34 pm

No one questions this. Unfortunately, the dynamics are different here, then say Iraq, so the North Koreans will have to be handled with a bit more subtlety.
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#3 Postby Rainband » Sun Feb 01, 2004 7:40 pm

stormchazer wrote:No one questions this. Unfortunately, the dynamics are different here, then say Iraq, so the North Koreans will have to be handled with a bit more subtlety.
I agree but inhumane treatment of Human Beings is a Crime no matter what country it is in. Iraq didn't have Nukes,NK does, this complicates matters a bit :wink:
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#4 Postby stormchazer » Sun Feb 01, 2004 10:52 pm

Rainband wrote:
stormchazer wrote:No one questions this. Unfortunately, the dynamics are different here, then say Iraq, so the North Koreans will have to be handled with a bit more subtlety.
I agree but inhumane treatment of Human Beings is a Crime no matter what country it is in. Iraq didn't have Nukes,NK does, this complicates matters a bit :wink:


South Koreas Capitol is also within artillery distance of North Korea and NK has troops massed at the border. This is not a situation where we could invade or attack with concern mostly for ourselves. South Korea would also be drawn in. We need to take them out but it will have to be done in a different way.
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#5 Postby streetsoldier » Mon Feb 02, 2004 1:23 am

Not to mention a reprise of December, 1950, when the People's Republic of China sent wave after wave of troops over the 38th Parallel, driving the UN contingent almost to the southern tip of the Korean Peninsula.

And we don't have so many troops on hand to counter a NK-Chinese assault.
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