Currently the U.S. has Armed Forces at war or poised for the possibillity/probability of War on at least three fronts!
Iraq is all but a given IMO! In fact I don't know why it hasn't been declared yet since we have jets going in and destroying military sites already. We've had operatives in Iraq for months trying to stir up the people so they will revolt when the real invasion happens. What will the other Arab coiuntries do when we do invade?
We have troops on the way to the Phillipines to fight the Al Queida cells that are there(Moro's?) who are getting bolder and causing too many problems and providing another staging area for Coward(they aren't terrorists!)attacks.
And now N. Korea has started up it's main Nuclear reactor which can produce enough uranium for a bomb within a year and a half in open defiance of the U.S. and S. Korea and the agreements they have signed concerning Nuclear proliferation. An dB! bombers are being deployed to Guam which is a hop, skip and jump from Korea for that bomber.
There are enough idiots and weirdos in this world that I wouldn't put anything past some of them. There is always some power hungry fool that could/would do something stupid that could spark a larger conflict!
So where are we headed?
Do you think we are heading into WWIII?
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I see absolutely no evidence of a World War developing. At least nothing that compares to WWI and WWII. There are always conflicts going on across the various parts the world. In order to support a true world war there has o be at least two powers capable of maintaing the conflict. Today there are two and possibly three Armies capable of this type of conflict, the US and China with Russia being the possible third. North Korea, while having a large standing army, doesn't have the capability to wage a war outside of the Korean pennisula.
While there is a lot of unrest, let's not blow the world situation out of proportion. The war with Iraq will be over in a matter of days or weeks at most. North Korea will be a regional conflict at worst if it happens at all. It is much more likely to be settled diplomatically. The war on terrorism will be going on for the rest of our lives and is a reality that the rest of the world has dealt with for decades.
While there is a lot of unrest, let's not blow the world situation out of proportion. The war with Iraq will be over in a matter of days or weeks at most. North Korea will be a regional conflict at worst if it happens at all. It is much more likely to be settled diplomatically. The war on terrorism will be going on for the rest of our lives and is a reality that the rest of the world has dealt with for decades.
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It only takes a day
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Someone gets stupid, sends off one bomb, attacks one city by air, whatever, lots of countries are real itchy and in my opinion, it wouldn't take much to touch off a global firestorm of war. This is my personal opinion, and this might not happen in my lifetime, but ya never know.
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Someone gets stupid, sends off one bomb, attacks one city by air, whatever, lots of countries are real itchy and in my opinion, it wouldn't take much to touch off a global firestorm of war. This is my personal opinion, and this might not happen in my lifetime, but ya never know.
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N Korea starts everything, we then invade. Red China involves themselves into the war on the side of N Korea. This gives Russia the greenlight to settle old scores from the 60's with Red China. Then Iraq attacks Isreal, thinking that our attention is elsewhere. The US, Britain, while involves in the Asian theatre, do launch a massive response, along with Isreal. Syria, and Iran then launch a reprisal attack on the allied forces.
The actualy fighting would all probably take place in under a year, due to American and British air superiority. Maybe Red China would be a bit longer, especially if they were to launch offensive operations into Russia
The actualy fighting would all probably take place in under a year, due to American and British air superiority. Maybe Red China would be a bit longer, especially if they were to launch offensive operations into Russia
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Derek, my thoughts are that you sound like "chicken little". A very unlikely scenario for these reasons.
1. North Korea would need the support of China to begin hostilities. Not going to happen. If they invaded South Korea without that support they would find themselves in the same position that Iraq did with the added problem that they just killed thousands of US servicemen. The US reply would be swift and devastating. hina would be very unlikely to come to their support if they initiated the hostilities on their own.
2. Russia settle old scores? The Russia of the 60's doesn't exist any more. If Russia wouldn't take on Chine when they had one of the world's most powerful armies, what makes you think they would try so now with a much diminished armed forces. Russia and China have had one of the longest running border wars in history but not hardly the scale you're talking about.
3. Iraq attacks Isreal? In order to invade Isreal thay would have to go through Jordan...not likely. A missile attack? Maybe, but Isreal is more than capable of taking on Syria, Iraq and Iran if it had too. I also don't understand why you think our attention would be diverted from this area. You just don't move 200,000 troops that quickly.
Maybe you need to do a little research on military history and capability. We have plenty of firepower to take care of N. Korea without resorting to nuclear weapons.
1. North Korea would need the support of China to begin hostilities. Not going to happen. If they invaded South Korea without that support they would find themselves in the same position that Iraq did with the added problem that they just killed thousands of US servicemen. The US reply would be swift and devastating. hina would be very unlikely to come to their support if they initiated the hostilities on their own.
2. Russia settle old scores? The Russia of the 60's doesn't exist any more. If Russia wouldn't take on Chine when they had one of the world's most powerful armies, what makes you think they would try so now with a much diminished armed forces. Russia and China have had one of the longest running border wars in history but not hardly the scale you're talking about.
3. Iraq attacks Isreal? In order to invade Isreal thay would have to go through Jordan...not likely. A missile attack? Maybe, but Isreal is more than capable of taking on Syria, Iraq and Iran if it had too. I also don't understand why you think our attention would be diverted from this area. You just don't move 200,000 troops that quickly.
Maybe you need to do a little research on military history and capability. We have plenty of firepower to take care of N. Korea without resorting to nuclear weapons.
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I totally agree MF.
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HeartofNC wrote:It only takes a day
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Someone gets stupid, sends off one bomb, attacks one city by air, whatever, lots of countries are real itchy and in my opinion, it wouldn't take much to touch off a global firestorm of war. This is my personal opinion, and this might not happen in my lifetime, but ya never know.
I agree, 100%.
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And how likely was China's first involvement?
Nobody forsaw that coming and there is no evidence that anything has changed. N korea acted without China's agreement in 1950 and Red China still came to their aid once we approached their border. Prehaps it is not me that needs to review history
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North Korea acted with the full knowledge and support from China in the 50's.
They we're nothing more than a puppet for the Communist Chinese. I think you need to check your history. The Chinese only committed their own troops to the battle after North Korea was in danger of being overun.
They we're nothing more than a puppet for the Communist Chinese. I think you need to check your history. The Chinese only committed their own troops to the battle after North Korea was in danger of being overun.
http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~korea/origins.htmlThe elections of 1948 and the division of Korea that ensued set the stage for a civil war. And by 1950, both North and South Korea sensed that war was inevitable. Not only were their armies getting prepared for war, but both Syngman Rhee and Kim Il Sung declared on several occasions that military force would be necessary to unify Korea. However, in terms of being prepared for war, North Korea had a clear advantage over the south. Not only did North Korea possess a larger army, it also had many experienced veterans who had fought in China's Civil War. In addition North Korea by this time were manufacturing some of their own weapons as well possessing many Soviet made weapons. South Korea on the other hand had soldiers who had not even attended basic training. Finally, North Korea had the support of the Chinese Military Therefore, in light of North Korea's military advantage on the eve of the war, it is reasonable to assume that it was North Korea that fired the first shot on June 25, 1950 that started the Korean War.
They we're nothing more than a puppet for the Communist Chinese. I think you need to check your history. The Chinese only committed their own troops to the battle after North Korea was in danger of being overun.
They we're nothing more than a puppet for the Communist Chinese. I think you need to check your history. The Chinese only committed their own troops to the battle after North Korea was in danger of being overun.
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