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If your child came home from school and told you he or she was bullied by another kid you might be concerned. But what if they blamed the teacher? It is happening. In fact, researchers at Baylor College of Medicine just completed a nine-year study on school violence. They found that 40% of teachers questioned, admitted they have bullied a student at some point in their careers. A spokesman from the American Federation of Teachers says that statistic is "inflated," because most teachers are just hard on themselves. Nonetheless, organizers of the study say it should serve as a reminder that they should talk to their children about their relationships at school. When it comes to any type of bullying experts say parents should look for things like failing grades, if a child suddenly becomes withdrawn, or even regressive behavior like bed-wetting or thumb sucking. If you have any concerns talk with your school officials.

I believe this!! I was in the office at the public school one time and there were students walking single file down the hall. The teacher hollered at them to "SHUT-UP" I looked over at the secretary and she just shook her head. Glad I made the decision to take my kids out of that school.

After my son reported that his first-grade teacher assaulted one of the boys (shaking him, leaving bruises on his arms), I raised such a stink...including calling the child-abuse hotline... that the district "retired" her.

She'd been a teacher since the Apostolic Age anyway, and it was about time.

I guess I'm not so sure what is wrong about a little fear Walking single file and being told to "Shut-up" sounds like the good-old days to me

When a teacher bruises a kid then things have gone too far.

mf_dolphin wrote:I guess I'm not so sure what is wrong about a little fear Walking single file and being told to "Shut-up" sounds like the good-old days to me

When a teacher bruises a kid then things have gone too far.

I understand what you are saying Marshall, but teachers are taught extensively in classroom management (or at least they are in Missouri). I am assuming that the teacher probably yelled shut up. If that was a high school class I might accept that -- but little kids, no way.

They were middle school kids. My point was I do not allow my children to tell others to shut-up, not even to other kids.

There are other words that can be used for them to remain quiet.

If ya want the old days Marshall, I will gladly share stories from those nuns that would slap your hand with a ruler.

Other alternatives:

Please... 1) Be Quiet!

2) Hush!

3) Shoosh!

Anything but...SHUT UP!


Eric

mf_dolphin wrote:I guess I'm not so sure what is wrong about a little fear Walking single file and being told to "Shut-up" sounds like the good-old days to me

When a teacher bruises a kid then things have gone too far.

I agree on one point Marshall, there has to be order. A teacher should be able to maintain order in a non aggressive way. If there is a problem child or children remove them so that the others may learn and by all means get the parents involved from the beginning. Don't leave the door open for someone to say "Well I didn't know. No one told Us. ".

I used a "clicker"...one of those tin toys?

When my classes heard THAT...they knew I meant business. No yelling, physical contact or "bullying" required.

I think if a teacher "hits" a student that is as bad as a bruise. I also feel teachers..who are supposed to be role models telling students to "shut up" sets a bad example.

I remember in high school a biology teacher snapped and threw a student's desk while inside a school room...was fired minutes later! I heard about the desk incident but didn't witness it.

Eric

As we all need to remember, kids will tell you just about anything to get out of trouble. As much as you want to believe all the tales coming out of children's mouths, I think it needs to be taken with a grain of salt. All professions have a bad few, but I really believe that teaching has the most minimal of the bad. Teachers are there for the love of learning and children, not for money or other reasons. Give the teacher the benefit of the doubt. They're doing what parents don't have the time to do (mostly due to employment), which is prepare our children for the real world with an education. Support our educators.
...Jennifer...

I support the teachers without a doubt. Had I not heard this for myself I would not have believed it.

My kids are in Catholic school. Best thing I have ever spent my money on.

We have neutered the teachers so much that maintaining order is almost a thing of the past. I for one am so tired of political correctness I can puke! When I went to school there was still the paddle. Not only did you get a spanking at school but when you got home it was much much worse!!!

It's funnt, there were actully very few paddlings.....we understood the crime and punishment relationship.

mrschad wrote:As we all need to remember, kids will tell you just about anything to get out of trouble. As much as you want to believe all the tales coming out of children's mouths, I think it needs to be taken with a grain of salt. All professions have a bad few, but I really believe that teaching has the most minimal of the bad. Teachers are there for the love of learning and children, not for money or other reasons. Give the teacher the benefit of the doubt. They're doing what parents don't have the time to do (mostly due to employment), which is prepare our children for the real world with an education. Support our educators.
...Jennifer...

I agree with you mrschad but in an earlier post someone had stated that a teacher was working well past there prime...
Are these types of teachers realy teaching or just holding a position???
IMO it is up to Us to maintain balance in our schools.. To be involved.. They are our children, are they not???

Plenty of my teachers were well past their prime They still knew how to teach and command respect

mrschad wrote:As we all need to remember, kids will tell you just about anything to get out of trouble. As much as you want to believe all the tales coming out of children's mouths, I think it needs to be taken with a grain of salt. All professions have a bad few, but I really believe that teaching has the most minimal of the bad. Teachers are there for the love of learning and children, not for money or other reasons. Give the teacher the benefit of the doubt. They're doing what parents don't have the time to do (mostly due to employment), which is prepare our children for the real world with an education. Support our educators.
...Jennifer...

well stated jennifer.
my wife and I make it a point to introduce our selves to our childrens teachers each year and help out on field trips inclass reading with them and just talking to them when we can to get to know them. you can tell they love teaching and being around children. but anyone can have a bad day and lose their cool and say something they would like to take back.
The kids do know that they have to show respect for the teachers and teachers do need to set up some guidelines to keep the from misbehaving in school because there is always one disruptive student who can spoil it for the rest.

mf_dolphin wrote:Plenty of my teachers were well past their prime They still knew how to teach and command respect

so were a lot of mine. some used pointers across the fingers to get respect, some used there voice. but unfortunately they grow a little less patient as they near retirement.

The teacher I mentioned was responding to the child not being "in line"...she actually picked him UP by his shoulders, shook him, and pressed him against the wall while verbally berating him. His little feet were OFF THE FLOOR while this was going on, BTW.

His parents had pictures taken of the bruising at their doctor's, independent of my call, and filed a complaint with the sherriff's office...who dropped all charges when the district asked for her to retire after her first semester, during Christmas break.

I do not like political correctness of any kind. You can still maintain order in a school without what I witnessed. They still have "Corporal Punishment" at the public schools. But, when you register your children you have the option of either being for it or against it. 80% of parents were against it. I was for it. IMO, that option should not be given at registration.

There are words that make me cringe and SHUT-UP is one of them.