STORM2K

I just finished watching a program on the History Channel on the 7th Calv...it made my blood BOIL Most of us know the history of the 7th Calvary and Gen. G. Custer, I am a fanatic of the old west history, I mean heck, I lived within' 2 miles of Fort Apache growing up. Anyways, I know this is gonna start a debate but da** it, Gen Custer got his just desserts at the Little BigHorn and the atrocities that occured at Wounded Knee made my blood boil even MORE! Yes, I'm a Native American sympathizer, mainly due in part that I am half Native American myself! Anyone wanna join this debate....if you dare "LOL!"

Dennis

Are you nuts?????lol That would be the same as a religious or political debate.

I agree that he did get what he deserved though.

Has anyone seen the movie ThunderHeart?? GREAT movie IMO.......if not, rent it!

LOL @ blizzard, I know, ask Lindaloo, I "always" seem to start "heated threads" especially when it comes to the plight of Native Americans

Dennis

I remember seeing the movie "I Will Cry No More Forever", "Little Big Man" with Dustin Hoffman and "Dances with Wolves". There's other other classic Indian movies that tell the sad tale of their plight and what the white man did in the name of "progress". They are wonderful movies, but ones that are too sad for me to watch again.

I agree that Custer did get what he had coming to him, no question in my mind!

No debate here!! I read wounded knee many years ago, very disturbing book. .. But if you look over our whole history, it would seem the white man always treated other races as tho they we're the better .

Even in the War Between the States, George Armstrong Custer was regarded by his own superior officers as "a circus rider gone mad"...not a professional soldier by any means, but led by example (usually reckless). Even the German observer, Count von Zeppelin, sent disparaging letters back to Prussia over Custer's lack of personal discipline and repeated acts of insubordination.

In the "postbellum" decade, he should never have been given any military command, much less being entertained as a candidate for one. IMHO, in this day and age, he'd have quickly been found to be mentally ill, and unfit for service. I agree with the tenor of the previous posters.

BTW, on the battle/burial site in the Crow Reservation (Little Bighorn National Monument), several people have seen "ghosts" of both Lakota/Cheyenne/Miniconjou/Oglala warriors and U.S. troopers at different times over the years. One father and son was approached by a short man on foot, with long hair and prominent moustache, wearing a buckskin coat, "wild-eyed", and asking loudly, "Where's the Seventh? Where's the Seventh?" then disappearing. This was in 1981, and it was not until a few days later that the apparition was identified by the two as being that of Custer himself. :o

A debate! Time to stick my oar in!!!

Most of the awareness that cowboys were the "goods" and native americans the "bads" was created by Hollywood. I grew-up wearing a Stetson hat, two guns and "camperos", the cowboys' boots. We all knew that the trumpet sound would have meant "I'm safe! I can survive!".
Reality was a little bit different:
In the name of progress, they've been massacrated, locked up in the famous reservations (often deserts without food, water and grass).
Their main resource, buffalos, sterminated just for fun. Now buffalos are almost extincts. There are pictures of trains, running on the plain, from where dozens of "hunters" were shooting buffalos and leaving them there...

A good movie: Blu Soldier (or whatever is the orignal title) tells about Sand's Creek, where 500 Cheyennes (mostly kids and women) have been killed by US Cav...
It's a 1970 movie, directed by Ralph Nelson with Candice Bergen and Peter Strauss.

I was a cowboy once, now I'm redskin!

Paolo

The buffalo were slaughtered in order to take away the main food source for the Native Americans in hopes this would *break their backs*, make 'em too weak to fight and give the final victory to the US Calvary.....they did a pretty darn good job, it worked very well! After Wounded Knee, the 7th Calvary waited until the winter months to take on the Plains Indians, weak from hunger, the 7th claimed very easy victories over them.

Dennis

There are several buffaloes living in the community I live in. It is neat to see them in the fields just down the road.

Have any of y'all ever had Buffalo meat? I've had it twice, I love it! Tom, we've got a Phoofey development just up the road a piece, called Bison Ranch, building lots start at 100,000$ and UP! They have a MASSIVE heard of Bison, talk about some BIG BULLS!

Dennis

We made a fantastic fresh cheese with buffalo's milk, named "Mozzarella di Bufala". Should you find it, check it's coming from Campania or Lazio. Any other different production area is a clone.

That's interesting Paolo.

No Dennis, I've never tried buffalo meat, even when I go to visit my Dad in Colorado. I just can't bring myself to it - even the cheese. It'll have to be one of those things where someone sneaks it into something that I'm eating.

I had buffalo jerkey once- it was a very unusual red meat taste. I didn't care for it... but I'm strange.