Stampede at Chicago nightclub

Chat about anything and everything... (well almost anything) Whether it be the front porch or the pot belly stove or news of interest or a topic of your liking, this is the place to post it.

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Message
Author
User avatar
bfez1
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 6548
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:14 am
Location: Meraux--10 mi E of New Orleans-totally destroyed by Katrina
Contact:

Stampede at Chicago nightclub

#1 Postby bfez1 » Mon Feb 17, 2003 9:06 am

At least 14 killed, others critically injured after "stampede" at Chicago nightclub, according to police and fire officials.
0 likes   

Rob-TheStormChaser

#2 Postby Rob-TheStormChaser » Mon Feb 17, 2003 10:43 am

Funny how that doesnt surprise me. Even though its bad news, its backpage to this bad storm here. Those discos are always overcrowded and then if there's a fire....you're toast.
0 likes   

User avatar
StormCrazyIowan
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 6599
Age: 41
Joined: Tue Feb 11, 2003 8:13 pm
Location: Quad Cities, IA
Contact:

#3 Postby StormCrazyIowan » Mon Feb 17, 2003 10:58 am

And to think......I WANTED to go there! I'll take a raincheck!
0 likes   

User avatar
Skywatch_NC
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 10949
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2003 9:31 pm
Location: Raleigh, NC
Contact:

#4 Postby Skywatch_NC » Mon Feb 17, 2003 11:01 am

Reminds me of the time of that stampede at a concert by "The Who" at the Riverfront Coliseum in Cincinnati back in the late 1970s where several were killed and injured! :(
0 likes   

Miss Mary

#5 Postby Miss Mary » Mon Feb 17, 2003 4:32 pm

Eric, we well remember the Who concert tragedy here in Cincy. It happened 12-3-79 and sadly 11 fans lost their lives that night. Just recently Bruce Springstein wanted festival seating for his concert at the same arena, formerly named Riverfront Colleseum. Festival Seating was banned after the Who concert. It was lifted for this Bruce S. concert. Everything went fine but they made sure every door was open and lots of police were on hand to keep order. Problem was twofold with the Who event: only a few doors were opened and fans heard music playing. It was just a sound check but they thought the concert had started and officials werene't opening the doors in time. So a stampede started. Those in line had festival seating tickets - first come, first served. They were trying to get in and the Chicago nightclub tragedy had folks trying to find a way out. I do see similarities to the Who tragedy but I first thought of the Beverly Hills Supper Club (May, 1977) in Northern KY. Fire broke out and patrons were scrambling just to get out. Doors and exits were padlocked or blocked. Firefighters found bodies stacked up near doors that should have been open at Beverly Hills. Were you living here then (1977)? I was camping in Indiana with my dad and brothers. We turned on our radio the next morning while eating breakfast. That's when we heard about the terrible fire there.

Sad, sad day for Chicago. Feel for the families of these unfortunate victims.
0 likes   

Rainband

#6 Postby Rainband » Mon Feb 17, 2003 4:41 pm

Was there a fire? On the news it just said stampede, nothing about a fire?? :roll: Oh this will clear it up http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/02/17/chicago.nightclub/index.html
0 likes   

User avatar
Skywatch_NC
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 10949
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2003 9:31 pm
Location: Raleigh, NC
Contact:

#7 Postby Skywatch_NC » Mon Feb 17, 2003 4:47 pm

I was in Cincy during '77-'79...didn't move to NY state until 1985. I remember the Beverly Hills Supper Club tragedy and my church youth minister and his wife were with some friends for a school banquet that night at the Club when the fire broke out...sadly one of the friends (a woman) of this couple died in the blaze! :( My parents were at the Cincinnati Convention Center at an Amway rally the night of that tragedy and remember all the chaos with Cincy fire depts racing across the river to assist Ky firefighters and rescue workers...when they left the center they saw the flames shooting up into the air. :(

Eric
0 likes   

User avatar
southerngale
Retired Staff
Retired Staff
Posts: 27420
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2002 1:27 am
Location: Southeast Texas (Beaumont area)

#8 Postby southerngale » Mon Feb 17, 2003 4:47 pm

It was a stampede that broke out after a fight from what I understand. The fire she was talking about was in a restaurant years ago.

Both very sad! :(
0 likes   
Please support Storm2k by making a donation today. It is greatly appreciated! Click here: Image

Image my Cowboys Image my RocketsImage my Astros

User avatar
cycloneye
Admin
Admin
Posts: 139596
Age: 67
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:54 am
Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico

#9 Postby cycloneye » Mon Feb 17, 2003 4:51 pm

Rainband this was a fight that broke up and then the security people there sprayed pepper and that was the cause for all the people to stampede but also an exit was closed so that was the real cause that now in the latest news 21 haved died and over 30 were injured.
0 likes   
Visit the Caribbean-Central America Weather Thread where you can find at first post web cams,radars
and observations from Caribbean basin members Click Here

Rainband

#10 Postby Rainband » Mon Feb 17, 2003 4:51 pm

Agreed, with it being sad. I was just wondering cause I have heard people locally saying it was a fire..So thats why I looked it up :wink: I think thats got to be one of the worst ways to go. :cry: Very sad indeed. :cry:
0 likes   

User avatar
Skywatch_NC
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 10949
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2003 9:31 pm
Location: Raleigh, NC
Contact:

#11 Postby Skywatch_NC » Mon Feb 17, 2003 4:53 pm

That was the mistake right there from law enforcement spraying the general crowd with the pepper spray! :( :(
0 likes   

Rainband

#12 Postby Rainband » Mon Feb 17, 2003 4:57 pm

What were they thinking I wonder??? :o
0 likes   

Rob-TheStormChaser

#13 Postby Rob-TheStormChaser » Mon Feb 17, 2003 5:21 pm

It was a chaotic scene: Hundreds of screaming people stumbling down the darkened stairs of a crowded nightclub, gasping for air and stepping on bodies, only to find themselves trapped at the bottom with one open exit.

At least 21 people were killed and 55 injured in the stampede early Monday at the E2 nightclub, authorities said. There were reports that as many as 1,500 people were crammed into the second-floor club when someone sprayed Mace or pepper spray to quell a fight about 2 a.m.

Witnesses described a frenzied scene of some people trying to climb through the ceiling, while others were trampled in the frantic rush for an exit, their faces and bodies flattened against the glass front door.

Some people fainted on the club floor; others were coughing and crying, gagging and blindly groping for any way out.


"People were being trapped underneath you ... so we're actually standing on people's heads and we didn't even know it," said Amishoov Blackwell, a 30-year-old patron. "It was just bodies laying everywhere."

Blackwell said one man crushed between two people told him, "'I can't breathe! I want you to hold my hand, man. If I don't make it, tell my mom that I love her!' He just basically collapsed."

Some witnesses reported that the lights were cut in the stairwell.

Firefighters with sledgehammers and pry bars desperately struggled to open other doors in the half-block-long building. Some were locked, others blocked by laundry bags from the first-floor Epitome restaurant, authorities said.

"There are people trying to get out that could not get out," Fire Commissioner James Joyce said. "Locked and blocked doors are a contributing factor. We can't explain how management or ownership would allow that."


The locked doors are a fire code violation, Joyce said. He said at the most recent inspection in the fall of 2002, there were no blocked or locked doors or other serious violations.

Fire officials say they do not know the legal capacity of the club but initially estimated the crowd at 1,500.

Police Commissioner Terry Hillard said investigators were trying to sort out conflicting stories about the source of the Mace or pepper spray and obtain videotape from inside the club. Witnesses said the spray may have come from the club's security guards trying to break up a fight between at least two women.

"Lives were tragically and senselessly lost, pinned down by a stampeding crowd," Hillard said.

"We will get to the bottom of this," he said. "Right now our investigation is at full tilt."


Friends and family of missing patrons flocked to the morgue Monday afternoon, searching for information and holding out hope that their loved ones were still alive.

"I just can't understand it," said Herschel Blake, who was looking for his 22-year-old grandson, Michael. "His mother called me and said, "Your grandson is dead. The door was locked. There was only one way out of the place.'"

Witnesses said some people were stomped on; many victims suffered crushing chest and head injuries.

"Everybody smashed; people crying, couldn't breathe," said club-goer Reggie Clark. "Two ladies next to me died. A guy under me passed out."

Water and ice were passed to some of those trapped as rescuers struggled to pull them from the building.


"You could see a mound of people," said Cory Thomas, 33, who went to the club to pick up two friends. "People were stacking on top of each other, screaming and gagging, I guess from the pepper spray. The door got blocked because there were too many people stacked up against it."

"I saw them taking out a pregnant woman," Thomas said. "She was in bad shape. I saw at least 10 lifeless bodies."

The president of a Chicago entertainment agency that has booked acts at the club said access to the building was unsafe for the number of people reported to be there early Monday.

"The doorway was obviously inadequate for an emergency," said Ron Onesti of Onesti Entertainment Co. "When the place is filled to capacity, the doorway is very thin."

Photographs on Onesti's Web site depict packed crowds at the nightclub. Onesti maintained that his agency had nothing to do with managing the club and hadn't had any dealings involving it in about a year.

The club is located in the Near South Side, a commercial district near the McCormick Place convention center.

The stampede was one of the nation's deadliest.

In December 1991, nine young people were crushed to death in a gymnasium stairwell while awaiting a celebrity basketball game in New York.

In December 1979, 11 people were killed in Cincinnati in a crush to get into a concert by The Who.
0 likes   

User avatar
JQ Public
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4488
Joined: Thu Feb 06, 2003 1:17 am
Location: Cary, NC

#14 Postby JQ Public » Mon Feb 17, 2003 5:23 pm

So sad :( This being a popular hangout of people my age...i can totally understand just how crowded that place was and how they only have one entrance open so that there is only one way for people to get in...get carded etc. They are in my thoughts :(
0 likes   

User avatar
southerngale
Retired Staff
Retired Staff
Posts: 27420
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2002 1:27 am
Location: Southeast Texas (Beaumont area)

#15 Postby southerngale » Mon Feb 17, 2003 5:46 pm

That is one dreadful story. I can't imagine what those people went through! My prayers are with them and their loved ones.
0 likes   
Please support Storm2k by making a donation today. It is greatly appreciated! Click here: Image

Image my Cowboys Image my RocketsImage my Astros

Rob-TheStormChaser

#16 Postby Rob-TheStormChaser » Mon Feb 17, 2003 5:50 pm

People just went into a chaos...there's many fire code violations due to locked/blocked doors. Also overcrowding....what else is new?! It always takes a few tragedies like that to wake people up. Sad.
0 likes   

Miss Mary

#17 Postby Miss Mary » Mon Feb 17, 2003 7:34 pm

I apologize for the confusion from what I posted. When Eric mentioned the Who tragedy it also brought back memories of a local fire, years ago. I mentioned the Beverly Hills Supper Club fire b/c Eric used to live here in Cincinnati. People frantically tried to exit that huge nightclub and exits were locked. 165 died in that fire. The Chicago Nightclub tragedy just seemed to bring back awful memories for me (and Eric also).

Thanks for clearing this up. I'll be more careful in the future.

Appreciate you posting the article and report Rob. Those poor people! Terrible way to go. Praying for their families.
0 likes   

Rainband

#18 Postby Rainband » Mon Feb 17, 2003 7:46 pm

I honestly didn't know the story, thats why I researched it, wasn't trying to argue with anyone..Sorry :wink: Misunderstanding
0 likes   

Miss Mary

#19 Postby Miss Mary » Mon Feb 17, 2003 8:17 pm

Rainband - me too! Sorry. Explained to Sky in a note, I guess I'm still on guard about my posts from our experience elsewhere with another message board! I'll relax now....

:)
0 likes   

Rainband

#20 Postby Rainband » Mon Feb 17, 2003 8:22 pm

MARY HERE AT 2K YOU ARE FAMILY, NOT A NUMBER!!!!! So don't worry :wink: WE LOVE YA
0 likes   


Return to “Off Topic”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 14 guests