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Explosion in Oslo

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:06 am
by RL3AO
Potentially involving building with Prime Minister's office in it.

Details sketchy right now.

Re: Explosion in Oslo

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:08 am
by Florida1118
Why would anyone attack Norway...Hopefully casualties are mimimal/not there.

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:22 am
by HURAKAN
I'm hearing 8 injuries, no deaths, and the prime minister is unharmed.

Florida1118, I agree, Norway would be the last country in my list where a terrorist attack would occur. Maybe Swizerland would be the last country in my list!

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:34 am
by RL3AO
Reports of a mangled car outside the building.

If thats true combined with this

Image

seems consistent of a car bomb.

Re: Explosion in Oslo

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:32 am
by Brent
2 dead, 15 injured, and now this:

BreakingNews: Gunman dressed as policeman has attacked Labour Party youth camp on island just outside Oslo, Oslo journalist tells BBC http://bbc.in/oKHzCP

Something's strange.

Re: Explosion in Oslo

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:53 pm
by Ptarmigan
Eyewitness: 20-25 bodies at youth camp
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/ ... 2-13-34-32

This is a very serious situation in Norway. Condolences to everyone affected. :cry:

Re: Explosion in Oslo

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:04 pm
by Florida1118
If I was them, Id lock down their counrty and ask for military help of other courtires. Better safe than sorry.

Re: Explosion in Oslo

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:42 pm
by vbhoutex
BBC is now saying at least one arrested in the shootings at the camp and that they are connected to the bombing. Still unfolding to say the least. What a horribly tragic situation. Prayers going out for all of Norway and especially for those directly affected by this violence.

Re: Explosion in Oslo

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:49 pm
by Ptarmigan
BBC Live Video
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14254705

At least 9 to 10 killed in shooting.

Re: Explosion in Oslo

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:59 am
by HurricaneBill

Re: Explosion in Oslo

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:04 am
by somethingfunny
Much of my family is from Sweden, and Scandinavia has always seemed like the happiest, most peaceful and secure place on Earth. I've developed a hard heart toward events in the news over the past decade, but this one hurts me. Prayers for Norway tonight.

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:10 am
by HURAKAN

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:02 am
by RL3AO
Sounds like the maximum prison sentence in Norway is 21 years.

Re: Explosion in Oslo

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:10 am
by Stephanie
My thoughts and prayers go to our friends in Norway today. I'm so glad that they at least have arrested one person.

Re: Explosion in Oslo

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:01 am
by Cyclenall
Florida1118 wrote:If I was them, Id lock down their counrty and ask for military help of other courtires. Better safe than sorry.

I don't think Norway wants to become a militarized police state, in fact the government stated they will do the exact opposite because once they fall into that trap, the aggressor automatically wins. This I believe is the right thing.

RL3AO wrote:Sounds like the maximum prison sentence in Norway is 21 years.

Anything less than the death penalty would be a major injustice. 21 years is ridiculous, I hope he/they doesn't get that or god forbid less!

This two-pronged attack on Norway is very puzzling in many ways. First of all, there should be more news coverage of this despite it already being the top news story for most news carriers. Second, How on earth were all those explosives placed near some of the most prominent buildings in the entire country! Where is the security and how did this guy manage to place tons and tons of fertilizer (if that was what was used) in the right position without being noticed? Continuing:

3. On the island where the shooting took place, how did the guy get a hold of a police uniform?
4. The time between when the shooting first started and when police finally got a hold of him was 1 full hour! What in lord's name were the police doing??? He should have been brought down within minutes but instead after mowing 85 people down, the police capture him. What kind of police force takes that long anyways? There was communication to the outside so it's not as though the police weren't contacted within a timely manner and in fact people in hiding were texting information outwards! I think a whole separate investigation into why the response was incredibly slow is definitely needed. Its scary to think this is what extreme complacency does to national intelligence and police emergencies :x .
5. Reading the alleged motive, it's one of the most complex and bizarre ideologies I've come across in a very long time.

I'm amazed that one guy was able to do all of that in the span of just some hours. An extremely disgusting event for a great nation and infuriating one.

Re: Explosion in Oslo

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:42 am
by Brent
Cyclenall wrote:I'm amazed that one guy was able to do all of that in the span of just some hours. An extremely disgusting event for a great nation and infuriating one.


That has been bothering me since the story exploded last night when the death toll soared. I just can't believe one guy did it all. Norway's the last place I would have ever expected terrorism like that...

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:21 am
by mf_dolphin
The lesson from history is the it's almost impossible to stop a single comitted individual. When you live in a free and open society there's an assumption of good. Unfortunately this leaves the door wide open for the crazies....

Re: Explosion in Oslo

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:03 am
by Florida1118
Cyclenall wrote:
Florida1118 wrote:If I was them, Id lock down their counrty and ask for military help of other courtires. Better safe than sorry.

I don't think Norway wants to become a militarized police state, in fact the government stated they will do the exact opposite because once they fall into that trap, the aggressor automatically wins. This I believe is the right thing.

RL3AO wrote:Sounds like the maximum prison sentence in Norway is 21 years.

Anything less than the death penalty would be a major injustice. 21 years is ridiculous, I hope he/they doesn't get that or god forbid less!

This two-pronged attack on Norway is very puzzling in many ways. First of all, there should be more news coverage of this despite it already being the top news story for most news carriers. Second, How on earth were all those explosives placed near some of the most prominent buildings in the entire country! Where is the security and how did this guy manage to place tons and tons of fertilizer (if that was what was used) in the right position without being noticed? Continuing:

3. On the island where the shooting took place, how did the guy get a hold of a police uniform?
4. The time between when the shooting first started and when police finally got a hold of him was 1 full hour! What in lord's name were the police doing??? He should have been brought down within minutes but instead after mowing 85 people down, the police capture him. What kind of police force takes that long anyways? There was communication to the outside so it's not as though the police weren't contacted within a timely manner and in fact people in hiding were texting information outwards! I think a whole separate investigation into why the response was incredibly slow is definitely needed. Its scary to think this is what extreme complacency does to national intelligence and police emergencies :x .
5. Reading the alleged motive, it's one of the most complex and bizarre ideologies I've come across in a very long time.

I'm amazed that one guy was able to do all of that in the span of just some hours. An extremely disgusting event for a great nation and infuriating one.

Thats True...And I wonder if they can do 21 years per murder? In that case he would be in for life. And then to continue...

1. Thats american news sadly. Its an old story if its not in our country, and isnt going on for days.
2. If it was in a car, it would have been easy to just drive up. They dont have the extensive protection being they dont like alot of Military/Police presence apparently.
3. He probably brought it with him...and on the internet, you can get anything really. Illegal yes, but doesnt stop people. He could also have made his own, stole it out of a police car etc...
4. It takes tactics. They are arraving on boats, and thats not very fast. To call out SWAT and get them ready also takes time, ecspecially if they are far from a CP. They also didnt want to just boat anlong and then him kill them, explode etc...but as the killing went on they probably just said lets go.
5. He's insane. All I can say is I hope he gets help