Federal Court to Hear Request to Reopen Roe v. Wade

[Lindaloo]

Probably because no one pays any attention to you anyway j. ROFL!!! j/k

[Josephine96]

LOL sometimes I think people pay too much attention to me

[Lindaloo]

Well count me out of those people Josephine. I just threw you into the same category as j. LOL!!! j/k.

[Josephine96]

LOL Thank you Linda... I'd rather have not enough attention sometimes than too much lol

[stormchazer]

Steph as a woman I find that statement out of line. Second, if a woman is raped then that is an entirely different situation. Although I have no clue as to what I would do in that situation. I really don't.

I'm sorry, but whenever this topic comes up, I NEVER SEE any of the people that are on the bandwagon for overturning it bring this up. That statement of "one night of fun" sounded like that was the ONLY reason why women would choose an abortion and that it insinuates to me that that woman is a sl*t.

Any number is bad, but the amount of pregnancies due to rape are very low...

http://www.paralumun.com/issuesrapestats.htm

The adult pregnancy rate associated with rape is estimated to be 4.7%. This information, in conjunction with estimates based on the U.S. Census, suggest that there may be 32,101 annual rape-related pregnancies among American women over the age of 18.17

I am staunchly anti-abortion but would support the procedure in cases of Rape or if the Mothers Life were in danger.

[Stephanie]

yes.....even though me and steph are on the verge of murdering each other..things are in check!

I'm just kidding steph!

:Under: - what was that again j?

Anthony - I've been trying to stay out of them myself; it didn't work today though.

[ColdFront77]

Abortion is the killing of a living thing. This living thing has no opinion of his or her own to live.

Even with that said, there is no reason to have someone killed for no reason whats so ever.

[coriolis]

I will be amazed if this case goes forward. If it does the supreme court will probably not reverse the original decsion. Personally, I would like to see it overturned. It would be a miracle.

[sunnyday]

Yes, it would be very difficult to be raped and wind up pregnant, but the baby is still a baby and innocent of the crime his 'father'coimmitted. Therefore, that is no reason to kill the baby.

[Derek Ortt]

Josephine,

If people have the right to choose, that means I have the right to choose to kill anyone whom I do not like. Give it up, you cannot have it both ways

[Derek Ortt]

Rape should and must not make any difference. Blast me if you like, but I thought Nuremberg clearly stated to the world that transgressions against innocent people is a crime. That baby is innocent. If the mother does not want the child, I'd be more than happy to adopt that child, giving him the chance of life

[Guest]

Overturn it! Need to end the butchering of innocent lives! Too many people out there who want to adopt as well!

[stormchazer]

Yes, it would be very difficult to be raped and wind up pregnant, but the baby is still a baby and innocent of the crime his 'father'coimmitted. Therefore, that is no reason to kill the baby.

While I do agree with what you are saying....the victim of the rape will be forced to suffer further with the knowledge and responsibility for a child conceived during a violent crime. I just do not think you can ask a woman to do that.

[timNms]

Yes, it would be very difficult to be raped and wind up pregnant, but the baby is still a baby and innocent of the crime his 'father'coimmitted. Therefore, that is no reason to kill the baby.

Rape should and must not make any difference. Blast me if you like, but I thought Nuremberg clearly stated to the world that transgressions against innocent people is a crime. That baby is innocent. If the mother does not want the child, I'd be more than happy to adopt that child, giving him the chance of life

I agree with both of you. Rape is a terrible thing for anyone to have to suffer through. However, the baby is innocent.
As difficult as it would be for me to see something like that happen to my wife or daughter, I'd still want them to have the baby and give it to someone who would love and take care of it if they couldn't do it.

I've often heard people say "It's ok to have an abortion if the mother's life is in danger". I'm not sure how I would react if faced with a decision like that! It would be very difficult to say "Ok, kill my baby and save my wife." Or "Let my wife die so my baby can live". I wonder how many cases like that happen in the US each year?

[coriolis]

Each baby that is conceived could someday grow up and do great things and make great contributions to the world. More importantly, each baby is Gods creation.

Citing an extreme example (rape or incest) is a common way of establishing a principle (abortion is acceptable) so that it can be extended to other cases (abortion on demand) which is the real goal.

The real issue is abortion on demand. The extreme examples are a smokescreen.

At the risk of sounding like an old fart, this is symptomatic of how far downhill our society has gone. Everyone feels entitled to get what they want. Fed by the media, people feel that sex should be free of consequences. When I was growing up (in the 1960's - before the birth control pill and abortion), it was accepted that if you get a girl pregnant, you are "on the hook." That served as a deterrent to a lot of casual sex. Sure irresponsible sex happens, but the problem is, that the prevailing attitude now is that it should be free of consequences. The risk factor seems to be gone, so now people think it's just another choice, like going to the movies or something.

One personal note: I was in those shoes. I got a woman pregnant and because of the values I grew up with, I married her! She wasn't my ideal soul mate, but I did the "right thing" and 14 years later we have 4 kids and are still together and have a functioning family. Had I made other decisions, things could be different. They could be better or worse, who knows? Do we have issues? Sure we have issues. Life is all about issues. Life is not about avoiding issues. What's important, is what you do with the issues.

Life is a journey, and you don't always know where a road leads. I'm here with my kids, I'm a dad, and that's the most important thing!

[streetsoldier]

This also ties in to economics, in a way...since Roe vs Wade, over 55 million abortions have been performed (and still counting).

An entire generation of poets, philosophers, engineers, teachers, doctors, businessmen, mothers, etc. LOST for all time...leaving the GenX'ers to take up the slack, funding Federal and state mandated programs.

The (in)human cost is staggering, let alone the sanctity of ONE life.

And we have 55M to answer for.

[ColdFront77]

Yikes... There have been about 55,000,000 abortions in the last 34 years in the United States out of latest approximate population 294,000,000 people!

This is 18.7%! (just under 1 out of 5)!

[Rainband]

I can't pretend to be able to make a judgment of anyone who has an abortion. I never have been in their shoes and never will be. What I do know is that it is probably one of, if not the most, difficult decision that person will ever make right or wrong..in our eyes. I think it's easy to judge someone or their actions from what we think and feel without ever giving their feelings a second thought. In my experience Some people compare abortion to murder and then support other seemingly murderous acts of violence such as war. I understand wars are necessary but what it boils down to is the act and not the reason... If people see it that way well then Murder is murder no matter what logic and reasoning we try to sugar coat it with.They are both a choice to kill someone for a reason and in both cases that reason will always seem irrelevant to those against either. Just some food for thought. Some very good points here. I'd say a very good debate and respectable too. Great job S2Kers

[mf_dolphin]

I couldn't disagree more Johnathan. Comparing the taking of a defenseless life by abortion and war is just hogwash. The Bible has many cases of justifiable wars. I don't know a single case where it supports the outright murder of an innocent.

[Rainband]

I couldn't disagree more Johnathan. Comparing the taking of a defenseless life by abortion and war is just hogwash. The Bible has many cases of justifiable wars. I don't know a single case where it supports the outright murder of an innocent.

I wasn't saying I agree with either. I was just saying different people have different views on both topics but both are actually murder. I agree holy wars should be seen differently but most wars are over what leaders believe and they send the innocent out to die for their cause...sidenote..I am not talking about Bush or the War on Terrorism. I support it 200%