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Re: Live Earth

#21 Postby Toadstool » Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:42 pm

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Toadstool wrote:It's been GREAT all day. Now NBC is broadcasting highlights (for you non-cable subscribers), though missing a lot of the other acts, but still amazing. I liked Nunatak! :)


Nunatak rules! :cold:


hehe, yeah they do... and definitely COLD... :froze:
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#22 Postby Regit » Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:18 am

Chacor wrote:Hypocritical. I heard the BBC World Service's coverage of it on radio last night, but it's all hypocritical. How much energy is expended PLAYING these concerts and JETTING from all over the world to do so!?



Green power was used wherever it could be. The reason they had so many stages around the world was so that performers played where they live. Regardless of that, throughout the concert people were given tips for reducing their carbon footprint and any other things they could do to help the environment. So, even if the concert had been a huge energy hog, it's usage would almost certainly be offset.

Why can't anything just be appreciated instead of criticized in today's world?
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#23 Postby Toadstool » Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:21 am

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Chacor wrote:Hypocritical. I heard the BBC World Service's coverage of it on radio last night, but it's all hypocritical. How much energy is expended PLAYING these concerts and JETTING from all over the world to do so!?



Green power was used wherever it could be. The reason they had so many stages around the world was so that performers played where they live. Regardless of that, throughout the concert people were given tips for reducing their carbon footprint and any other things they could do to help the environment. So, even if the concert had been a huge energy hog, it's usage would almost certainly be offset.

Why can't anything just be appreciated instead of criticized in today's world?


Definitely Regit. Business says to earn money you have to spend money. Likewise, if you want to conserve energy you have to expend energy to get the word out. It's all about the long term.
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Re: Live Earth

#24 Postby HarlequinBoy » Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:33 am

I think Live Earth is great and people are being really harsh and I don't get it.
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#25 Postby superg77 » Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:24 am

Here's a better Nunatak clip for those who missed Live Earth. The clip was the band live from Antarctica :cold: 8-) And here is one of their music videos.
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Re: Live Earth

#26 Postby lurkey » Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:16 am

HarlequinBoy wrote:I think Live Earth is great and people are being really harsh and I don't get it.


I think this part of this articlethat sums up why people were harsh about it:

Matt Bellamy, front man of the rock band Muse, has dubbed it 'private jets for climate change'.

A Daily Mail investigation has revealed that far from saving the planet, the extravaganza will generate a huge fuel bill, acres of garbage, thousands of tonnes of carbon emissions, and a mileage total equal to the movement of an army.

The most conservative assessment of the flights being taken by its superstars is that they are flying an extraordinary 222,623.63 miles between them to get to the various concerts - nearly nine times the circumference of the world. The true environmental cost, as they transport their technicians, dancers and support staff, is likely to be far higher.

The total carbon footprint of the event, taking into account the artists' and spectators' travel to the concert, and the energy consumption on the day, is likely to be at least 31,500 tonnes of carbon emissions, according to John Buckley of Carbonfootprint.com, who specialises in such calculations.


It is a case of "do what I say, not what I do" and it ticks me off.

Otherwise the concert was good, as long as I skip the environmental lectures .
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#27 Postby Stephanie » Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:53 am

Regit wrote:
Chacor wrote:Hypocritical. I heard the BBC World Service's coverage of it on radio last night, but it's all hypocritical. How much energy is expended PLAYING these concerts and JETTING from all over the world to do so!?



Green power was used wherever it could be. The reason they had so many stages around the world was so that performers played where they live. Regardless of that, throughout the concert people were given tips for reducing their carbon footprint and any other things they could do to help the environment. So, even if the concert had been a huge energy hog, it's usage would almost certainly be offset.

Why can't anything just be appreciated instead of criticized in today's world?


Not to mention it's THE WORLD'S PROBLEM, so it should've been a global concert.

I don't think that many appreciate anything anymore. We have too much and want more. No one is responsible for anything so the sense of "ownership" is lost as well.
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#28 Postby Miss Mary » Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:18 am

Regit wrote:
Chacor wrote:
Why can't anything just be appreciated instead of criticized in today's world?


Hear, hear!

Agree.
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Re: Live Earth

#29 Postby Ptarmigan » Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:47 pm

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Ptarmigan wrote:Not interested.


:lol: :ggreen: :rofl:
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#31 Postby Regit » Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:17 pm

lurker_from_nc wrote:
HarlequinBoy wrote:I think Live Earth is great and people are being really harsh and I don't get it.


I think this part of this articlethat sums up why people were harsh about it:

Matt Bellamy, front man of the rock band Muse, has dubbed it 'private jets for climate change'.

A Daily Mail investigation has revealed that far from saving the planet, the extravaganza will generate a huge fuel bill, acres of garbage, thousands of tonnes of carbon emissions, and a mileage total equal to the movement of an army.

The most conservative assessment of the flights being taken by its superstars is that they are flying an extraordinary 222,623.63 miles between them to get to the various concerts - nearly nine times the circumference of the world. The true environmental cost, as they transport their technicians, dancers and support staff, is likely to be far higher.

The total carbon footprint of the event, taking into account the artists' and spectators' travel to the concert, and the energy consumption on the day, is likely to be at least 31,500 tonnes of carbon emissions, according to John Buckley of Carbonfootprint.com, who specialises in such calculations.


It is a case of "do what I say, not what I do" and it ticks me off.

Otherwise the concert was good, as long as I skip the environmental lectures .



It is not a case of "do as I say, not as I do." I believe that if you told Al Gore you were going to pump X amount of CO2 into the atmosphere in order to prevent Y amount from getting into the atmosphere, and Y>X, he'd certainly be in favor of it.
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#32 Postby southerngale » Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:58 pm

I appreciated Bon Jovi. Image
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#33 Postby Miss Mary » Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:35 pm

southerngale wrote:I appreciated Bon Jovi. Image


And I thought of you the entire time he was first interviewed and then during his performance! They showed fans in the audience and I did look for you Kelly!!! LOL
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#34 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:02 pm

I was in Alaska on the 7th and missed the entire thing. One thing is for sure though; Global warming was certainly not the first thing on my mind up there. Highs in the 50s with snow-capped mountains and glaciers everywhere during mid summer felt more like an ice age to me! lol.
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#35 Postby southerngale » Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:13 pm

Miss Mary wrote:
southerngale wrote:I appreciated Bon Jovi. Image


And I thought of you the entire time he was first interviewed and then during his performance! They showed fans in the audience and I did look for you Kelly!!! LOL


You mean you missed me grabbing onto his ankles as he tried to walk off stage, shouting, "Take me with you!" or did the cops get that part edited out for evidence?
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#36 Postby Ptarmigan » Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:33 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:I was in Alaska on the 7th and missed the entire thing. One thing is for sure though; Global warming was certainly not the first thing on my mind up there. Highs in the 50s with snow-capped mountains and glaciers everywhere during mid summer felt more like an ice age to me! lol.


See any ptarmigans? 8-)
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Re: Live Earth

#37 Postby southerngale » Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:04 pm

The Live Earth concert, Al Gore's sprawling worldwide effort to raise environmental awareness, wasn't a big television draw. NBC's Saturday-night highlights show was seen by 2.75 million people, according to Nielsen Media Research, or fewer people than watched the soccer match between Argentina and Peru that night on Univision.

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Re: Live Earth

#38 Postby superg77 » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:28 pm

southerngale wrote:The Live Earth concert, Al Gore's sprawling worldwide effort to raise environmental awareness, wasn't a big television draw. NBC's Saturday-night highlights show was seen by 2.75 million people, according to Nielsen Media Research, or fewer people than watched the soccer match between Argentina and Peru that night on Univision.

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Wow! Must have been a popular soccer game. But that was just one NBC channel. The total for all of NBC's channels was 19 million and that's just U.S. tv coverage. But who even needs tv anymore now that we have YouTube. Type Live Earth in at YouTube and you get 26,000 awesome Live Earth video clips! Hmm... that seems like way too many. :D :D C'mon Southerngale let's go listen to them all :D Or for you just your Bon Jovi favorites.
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Re: Live Earth

#39 Postby Regit » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:57 pm

superg77 wrote:
southerngale wrote:The Live Earth concert, Al Gore's sprawling worldwide effort to raise environmental awareness, wasn't a big television draw. NBC's Saturday-night highlights show was seen by 2.75 million people, according to Nielsen Media Research, or fewer people than watched the soccer match between Argentina and Peru that night on Univision.

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Wow! Must have been a popular soccer game. But that was just one NBC channel. The total for all of NBC's channels was 19 million and that's just U.S. tv coverage. But who even needs tv anymore now that we have YouTube. Type Live Earth in at YouTube and you get 26,000 awesome Live Earth video clips! Hmm... that seems like way too many. :D :D C'mon Southerngale let's go listen to them all :D Or for you just your Bon Jovi favorites.


Yeah, I listened to almost all of it live and not one second was through NBC. It is difficult to tally, but the latest figure I heard was that the concert was attended/viewed/listened to by about 1.5 billion people. Regardless of the final count, it was clearly one of the most popular single events in the history of the world.
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#40 Postby southerngale » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:01 pm

I guess that AP article was a bit misleading then. Thanks for the Bon Jovi link. I do have their performance on DVR and it will be on DVD in a few days.
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