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#21 Postby fwbbreeze » Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:46 pm

Canelaw99 wrote:Yes and no. Yes, there were consequences when I took out the loans, but no, I don't think they should have the right to do it by any means necessary. With regular contracts, there are statutes of limitations, meaning that if the original lender doesn't bring a suit within that amount of time, they are barred from bringing it later. Why should the student loan lenders be exempt from these laws?

Furthermore, what are students today supposed to do? The cost of education has increased dramatically in recent years - here are quotes and then the link from a CNN report regarding this:

"As they have for the last ten years, college costs rose faster than inflation this year, according to the report "Trends in College Pricing 2005," released Tuesday by the College Board, a non-profit association of 4,500 schools, colleges and universities. "

"The rate of growth in tuition costs at four-year private colleges was about the same as last year -- 5.9 percent -- to $21,235. But growth slowed in tuition costs at four-year public universities. They rose 7.1 percent to $5,491. Last year, public school tuition jumped 10.5 percent.

Tuition costs, of course, are not the whole nut. Including room and board, the cost of attending a private college is $29,026 per year on average, and $12,127 at four-year public universities. "

http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/17/pf/college/college_costs/

In order to get decent jobs nowadays, people need a college education, yet in order to obtain a college education, they need either a) wealthy parents, b) full scholarships (which are not common), c) a job during school, or d) student loans. Most people have to go with option d, the loans. Many people, me included, take out the loans without really, honestly thinking about the consequences down the road because we're 18/19/20 years old thinking the world is great and we'll have great jobs waiting for us at the end of school. Unfortunately, this is usually not the case. Many student loan payments are more than most middle-class people can afford, thereby causing them to default, through no fault of their own.

I, for one, would like to see an overhaul of the student loan industry. There are so many protections for them that are honestly screwing over the average consumer. As I mentioned before, other lenders (credit card companies, car companies, etc.) have laws that they must follow, yet the student loan industry has carte blanche rule over their borrowers. They can wait 30+ years if they so desire to collect a $1000 loan. Does this make sense? Of course not when you really think about it. The government should step in and say enough is enough - yes, the borrowers need to pay back the loans, but the lenders should bring their claims in a timely manner and take into consideration a persons' circumstances. How would you feel if that gentleman discussed in the original link was your grandfather or uncle? That person is not alone in these situations either. It's maddening to think that our government will allow someone to be forced to chose between food or medicine because their social security is being garnished.

JMO....


I Hear ya ....just presenting the opposing viewpoint!! :)
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#22 Postby Canelaw99 » Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:48 pm

LOL - no problem - I'm just dealing with someone trying to collect on one of these loans now and I'm pretty ticked off by it. They never contacted me till this year about it and now are suing over it - it royally pisses me off, so I'm a little fiesty on this subject ;)
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#23 Postby CajunMama » Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:01 pm

Canelaw99 wrote:LOL - no problem - I'm just dealing with someone trying to collect on one of these loans now and I'm pretty ticked off by it. They never contacted me till this year about it and now are suing over it - it royally pisses me off, so I'm a little fiesty on this subject ;)



Ok...so have you been working for awhile now? Have you been paying your student loan off as the years went by or were you waiting for them to contact you? You signed a legal contract with them. They lived up to their end of the deal, now it's time for you to honor your end. Did you call the loan company and explain that you were unemployed? Did you pick up the phone and call them to make other arrangements for repayment before they started calling you?

BTW...the man is 67 years old....he knew he had that debt for many years i'm sure. Why be so surprised now. Retired postal worker? Hmmm...i know several postal workers and they make pretty decent salaries.

The University of Louisiana at Lafayette's tuition and fees are:

Undergraduate, Full Time (12 credit hours)
Resident (In State) $1,662.00
Non-Resident (Out of State)
U.S. Citizen $4,752.00
International $4,820.00

You can get a good quality education here and it's not expensive.
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#24 Postby Canelaw99 » Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:08 pm

Honestly, I didn't know this one was out there. I went through the graduate loan company in Indianapolis and got the list of the loans I still had that were outstanding and consolidated those and have been paying those. This one was, I've since found out, through a private lender (who, by the way do fall under the statute of limitations, hence the reason they filed this year - this was the last chance for them), and so was not listed through the company I went through. Unfortunately, it has changed hands, and I had lost the original paperwork due to water damage in my initial condo/moving/etc., so it fell through the cracks.

I agree that he knew about it back then, but my step-brother had people coming after him a couple of years ago over a 20+ year old loan. It seems that they change hands/get sold/etc., and had no record of him ever paying the last, like $200 or something, so they were coming after him. He'd paid it, but obviously didn't have the records after that amount of time. They eventually went away, but it's ridiculous.

I am not questioning the responsibility of someone to pay back loans. I am questioning the methods by which the loan companies and now the government are forcing people to do this. The government doesn't garnish social security if you don't pay off your car. They don't garnish ss if you don't pay your house. It's just ridiculous. I think the gov't. needs to back off.

Slightly off topic, but along the lines of the government needing to back off, did anyone hear about the gov't stepping in with regards to credit card payments? I'll look for a link about it and start a new thread.

Until the government starts really taking care of the issues out ther (education, jobs, security, etc.), they need to get out of our personal business, IMO.
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#25 Postby Terrell » Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:48 pm

I think it's reasonable to garnishee wages to pay back loans/debts. I do think though when doing so, that it should take it as a percentage of the income, but not to the point to drive anyone into starvation or homelessness. Simply take it from checks over a period of time necessary to pay back the debt and the interest on the debt.
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#26 Postby CajunMama » Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:41 pm

Canelaw99, thanks for answering my questions. Will the loan company work with you? Good louck with them.
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#27 Postby Canelaw99 » Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:14 pm

Anytime Cajun ;) I'm fighting them right now. LOL - it's not that I have an issue paying it back. I have an issue with them waiting till a day or 2 before the SOL was up, then suing for the wrong thing, etc. They basically expected me to just do nothing so they could get a default judgment against me. I don't let things go that easily :) Thank you though.
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#28 Postby wxcrazytwo » Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:21 am

Canelaw99 wrote:Anytime Cajun ;) I'm fighting them right now. LOL - it's not that I have an issue paying it back. I have an issue with them waiting till a day or 2 before the SOL was up, then suing for the wrong thing, etc. They basically expected me to just do nothing so they could get a default judgment against me. I don't let things go that easily :) Thank you though.


If you need help in dealing with them, please let me know. There is private company in Tampa, Florida, that specializes in that stuff. They have a pretty good success rate.
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