Will US USe Military Action Against Iran ?
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I do not think we will have to attack Iran to contain their threat, however I would not say that force is unthinkable with this administration. Neither do I believe we will wait out the diplomatic options if it becomes apparent to the hawks in Washington (as it no doubt already has), that Iran is going to NEED to be taken out.
While our military capabilities will be much the same in two years, the Iranians can build up proportionally a lot more by consolidating command and communication infrastructure. Also the Iranians if they are smart are already spreading out special forces and implementing ways for them to take command of regular units in key areas in the event of war. We have seen in the Second Iraqi War that Saddam Feddayeen were the most potent fighting force, able to strike at our supply lines and hold down forces in choke points like Al Qasr. Therefore the Iranians have a lot to gain by waiting and getting ready, whereas we have nothing really to gain IF war is inevitable.
Conflict is inevitable in some measure. This is a realist assumption. The Iranians and the West pursue different national interests. Especially America and the Iranians have different ideas about how regional relationships should exist. Because the Iranians aid terrorism with hamas and hezbollah, they are in direct opposition to our foreign policy. Yet while the Iranian government pursues goals which are against our national interests, we must decide the action to take which will support our national interests. There is more at stake than a small desert quarrel, and if we become overstretched, Paul Kennedy offers a simple prediction : we will find our place in the sun nibbled away.
I think the clear way to solve this problem is to engage Iran at all levels. They must understand that there are ways out of this mess. They can develop nuclear energy but it must be civilian, it cannot be tied to their military. They must be offered economic incentives in return for oversight, and know that should they not agree to those terms, their oil will not be bought. They must understand the overwhelming military power of the United States, and this can be done by moving carrier groups. Also they must know that while the Europeans might not act militarily, we are willing to in case sanctions do not stop their development process. Iran cannot be allowed to get near having a nuclear weapon, if they do Israel will attack.. and it is doubtful that there would not be war.
Taking a hard line with Iran is the only way to secure the peace. I am not sure war is the only way though, and maintain that politicians owe thousand of American soldiers diplomacy, because thousands of American soldiers WILL die in the event of a ground war in Iraq. They are a tougher nut to crack, geographically, demographically, and militarily.
While our military capabilities will be much the same in two years, the Iranians can build up proportionally a lot more by consolidating command and communication infrastructure. Also the Iranians if they are smart are already spreading out special forces and implementing ways for them to take command of regular units in key areas in the event of war. We have seen in the Second Iraqi War that Saddam Feddayeen were the most potent fighting force, able to strike at our supply lines and hold down forces in choke points like Al Qasr. Therefore the Iranians have a lot to gain by waiting and getting ready, whereas we have nothing really to gain IF war is inevitable.
Conflict is inevitable in some measure. This is a realist assumption. The Iranians and the West pursue different national interests. Especially America and the Iranians have different ideas about how regional relationships should exist. Because the Iranians aid terrorism with hamas and hezbollah, they are in direct opposition to our foreign policy. Yet while the Iranian government pursues goals which are against our national interests, we must decide the action to take which will support our national interests. There is more at stake than a small desert quarrel, and if we become overstretched, Paul Kennedy offers a simple prediction : we will find our place in the sun nibbled away.
I think the clear way to solve this problem is to engage Iran at all levels. They must understand that there are ways out of this mess. They can develop nuclear energy but it must be civilian, it cannot be tied to their military. They must be offered economic incentives in return for oversight, and know that should they not agree to those terms, their oil will not be bought. They must understand the overwhelming military power of the United States, and this can be done by moving carrier groups. Also they must know that while the Europeans might not act militarily, we are willing to in case sanctions do not stop their development process. Iran cannot be allowed to get near having a nuclear weapon, if they do Israel will attack.. and it is doubtful that there would not be war.
Taking a hard line with Iran is the only way to secure the peace. I am not sure war is the only way though, and maintain that politicians owe thousand of American soldiers diplomacy, because thousands of American soldiers WILL die in the event of a ground war in Iraq. They are a tougher nut to crack, geographically, demographically, and militarily.
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Brent don't be surprised if you see a false flag attack. This Wednesday would be a prime day for an attack. Lets hope it is an uneventful day. I have taken the day off from work and will be yak fishing for my birthday. I hit the water at 6am so if something happens I won't know it for awhile.
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BEER980 wrote:Brent don't be surprised if you see a false flag attack. This Wednesday would be a prime day for an attack. Lets hope it is an uneventful day. I have taken the day off from work and will be yak fishing for my birthday. I hit the water at 6am so if something happens I won't know it for awhile.
lets hope and pray there is an attack and soon. and iran is attacking one of our allies, US!! they support the terrorists that kill our troops, and we let them kill our troops so far with a kill for free card.
so soon some people forget history. the israelis saved the world from millions of deaths in 1983 when they told saddam he wasnt going to produce nukes. iran hates our guts. iran supports the butchering of our troops. iran says they will produce nukes. iran is a terror state. if iran gets nukes, terrorists get nukes.
what are we waiting for? a mushroom cloud to blossom?
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