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Al-qaeda threat diminishing? I don't think so.

#1 Postby southerngale » Sun Feb 16, 2003 8:02 pm

This is long and if you don't want to read it all, just read the first few paragraphs.

From TIME Online Edition:
Sunday, Feb. 16, 2003

When top officials at the FBI arrived for work last week, they had reason to feel even more anxious than usual. Beginning each day before dawn, FBI Director Robert Mueller and his top aides huddled on the seventh floor of the J. Edgar Hoover Building, reviewing overnight intelligence reports gathered from human and electronic sources around the world. Taken together, the reports suggested what intelligence officials had suspected for weeks: al-Qaeda operatives, in the words of a senior U.S. official, "are in the execution phase of some of their operations." The intelligence sources couldn't pinpoint the kind of strikes in the works or the cells charged with executing them. But U.S. officials told Time that earlier this month Mueller and other top officials received credible intelligence that al-Qaeda had an attack—or multiple attacks—set to begin at some point last week, perhaps to coincide with the end of the hajj, the five-day Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca. Officials say the intelligence specifically mentioned that the likely targets were New York City and Washington.

Even though the feared attacks failed to materialize, the anxieties didn't subside. Inside the FBI, fears of a devastating attack are as high as they've been in months, in part because of the possibility that "other tools are in play"—meaning biological and chemical weapons. A senior Administration official says that telephone calls and e-mails exchanged between several suspected terrorists and intercepted by the U.S. and foreign intelligence agencies pointed to a plot inside the U.S. using nerve gas, poisons or radiological devices. "It wasn't just chatter," says Republican Senator Pat Roberts, chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. "It was a pattern."

Some of the plots are believed to be in the planning stages. A senior Administration official tells Time that domestic law-enforcement agencies are investigating a report that Islamic extremists in this country are trying to acquire parts to build an unmanned aerial vehicle (uav) abroad—the kind of machine that terrorism experts believe could be deployed to spray chemical agents over populated areas. The fear is that a uav assembled overseas could be used against U.S. assets there.

Some alleged terrorist plans were very close to home.

Counterterrorism officials say they received a phone tip that unnamed members of Congress could be the targets of assassination attempts. On Wednesday, U.S. Capitol Police chief Terry Gainer warned House members to be on alert for attempts on their lives. At a closed-door briefing Thursday a group of Senators grilled Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge about whether they should clear their families out of the capital in anticipation of an attack. Ridge counseled them against it, but when pressed by the Senators for the odds of an attack on U.S. targets at home or abroad in the next several weeks, Ridge, according to one source familiar with the meeting, put the probability at "50% or greater." Ridge's spokesman denies that the Secretary gave that figure. Still, a congressional source says the White House is "definitely worried. They're not jacking this up for effect." In private, White House officials sounded almost resigned to the inevitability of catastrophe. "All we can do," Vice President Dick Cheney told a gathering of top Administration officials to discuss bioterrorism, "is ask ourselves, Have we done everything we can to prevent an attack? I want to be able to look all of you in the eye and (have you) tell me that we have done all that we can."

So have we? While the Administration demonstrated again last week its determination to remind Americans of the dangers of terrorism, it has done far less to prepare the country for actually defending against it. While the White House's suggestion that Americans defend themselves against chemical or biological attacks with duct tape and plastic sheeting was dismissed by many for its naivete, it laid bare a sobering truth: the U.S. still doesn't have a credible and comprehensive system in place to cope with such attacks. "We're not building the means to respond well," says Stephen Flynn, a homeland-security expert at the Council on Foreign Relations. "And when we have that next terrorist incident, there will be hell to pay, because the American people will be in disbelief about how little has been done."

Though President Bush pledged last January to send $3.5 billion to the state and local authorities who will bear the burden of responding to a terrorism emergency, the money was appropriated by Congress only last week. Interviews with dozens of homeland-security officials, from New York City to Long Beach, Calif., reveal that while local authorities around the country are more aware of the potential for terrorist strikes, they lack the resources to upgrade defenses against them. Hospitals say they can't train enough employees to effectively spot and treat victims of biological attacks; fire departments can't afford to buy the haz-mat suits needed to guard against deadly germs; sheriffs say they still learn about terrorist threats from cnn. The bottom line is that in many respects, the homeland is no more secure than it was on Sept. 10, 2001. "The biggest thing we've done," says William Harper, head of homeland security for the state of Arkansas, "is to avoid feeling comfortable."

The White House contends that every locality can't be sprinkled with money from the Federal Government. Early this month, Budget Director Mitchell Daniels said that "there is not enough money in the galaxy" to devise a homeland-security system strong enough to protect every American. The White House points out that the $41 billion the Administration's current budget devotes to homeland security is double the amount spent on domestic defense programs before Sept. 11. But because of the partisan bickering that delayed the creation of the Department of Homeland Security, almost none of it has actually been spent. Democrats are accusing the White House of neglecting homeland security while it slashes taxes and takes up fights with enemies abroad. "How is it," says Oregon Senator Ron Wyden, "that we're asking widows to put duct tape on their house, when police, firemen and medical personnel don't have adequate resources?"

Part of the answer rests in the new Homeland Security Department itself, the impetus behind the biggest reorganization of the Federal Government in a half-century. The new department, first proposed by the President last July, aims to bring 22 agencies and 175,000 employees, from border agents to biologists, under a single bureaucratic roof—and to do it before al-Qaeda tries to mount another attack. But the department is only beginning to pick up momentum. Since it opened its doors Jan. 24, only three out of a possible 23 appointees to the new department have received confirmation; most have not even been named.

Given the challenge he faces in launching a new department in the midst of war and mushrooming deficits, Ridge has stayed upbeat. He has tried to shrug off the late-night barbs aimed at the department's color-coded alerts and duct-tape tutorials. A sheepish but good-humored Ridge finally said last week that "we do not want individuals or families to start sealing their doors or their windows," adding that "there may come a time" when authorities recommend that Americans do so. Undaunted by criticism that the White House may be needlessly frightening the public, Ridge plans to unveil this week yet another set of practical guidelines for how citizens should prepare for attacks.

Ridge insists that on the whole, the country is safer than it was on Sept. 11. "Let me count the ways," he says, rattling off improvements in aviation security—from the hiring of 45,000 new federal screeners to the hardening of cockpit doors. Ridge says the Administration has improved communication between the FBI and the CIA, struck agreements with Mexico and Canada to tighten border controls and upgraded the "push packs" of medicines that can be dispatched to cities hit by biological or chemical attacks.

But bad guys may still be slipping in—or eluding detection. FBI officials told TIME the bureau has identified "less than a dozen" Islamic men residing in the U.S. who have been to al-Qaeda training camps and are currently in contact with al-Qaeda leaders.

Law-enforcement agents are monitoring these men with wiretaps, physical surveillance and other covert means; a handful of known Iraqi intelligence agents and 20 to 40 suspected al-Qaeda associates are receiving similar scrutiny. Officials say there's no credible evidence that Saddam, on his own or in league with al-Qaeda, has managed to smuggle biological or chemical weapons into the U.S. Still, so many targets on U.S. soil remain undefended or indefensible. Federal Homeland Security officials confided last week that the country's major subway systems are vulnerable to a toxic attack. The government has developed new sensors that can detect a toxic-chemical release and instantly alert emergency workers to where the substance is and how to fight it. So far, Washington has installed 100 sensors in its Metro stations; Boston has a small program in place, while New York City is still experimenting. That's it. The agency that regulates the country's 103 nuclear plants ordered security around sites tightened after Sept. 11. But watchdogs say those measures haven't been rigorously tested, and past test runs identified obvious security lapses like unlocked doors.


There's more....here's the link:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101030224-423465,00.html
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#2 Postby Rob-TheStormChaser » Sun Feb 16, 2003 8:06 pm

Well I'm not worried....lol hell, the mailman cant even find where I live sometimes!
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#3 Postby streetsoldier » Sun Feb 16, 2003 8:07 pm

WHAT THE &%^$#* is THIS? I have been watching FoxNews today, and every "expert" they have interviewed opines that Al Qaida already has a clandestine army INSIDE America, possibly up to 1.000 operatives, waiting for the "word".

I've addressed this before, so I won't waste time with an instant replay... :x
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#4 Postby cycloneye » Sun Feb 16, 2003 8:20 pm

It is known that inside the US there are sleeper cells waiting for the order to then carrie out the attacks so I dont know why they are saying that now.
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#5 Postby southerngale » Sun Feb 16, 2003 8:27 pm

lol Rob...I know what you mean.

streetsoldier...I'm not sure I get your point. I was watching Fox News today too. (off and on with the Daytona 500)
Yes, I think we all know that Al-qaeda members are among us.
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#6 Postby streetsoldier » Sun Feb 16, 2003 8:35 pm

It's just that I read the entire post AND the link offered; the sum of it all bothers me that a "clear and present danger", though it does exist, is being downplayed in such a brazen, "let's put this in 'perspective'" manner.

We are asked to be aware and ever-vigilant, yet given "it isn't as bad as it seems" with the other hand...

Can we at least demand that the "powers-that-be" make up their minds?
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#7 Postby southerngale » Sun Feb 16, 2003 8:51 pm

Yeah, streetsoldier, I know what you mean. I was mainly posting that because many people thought our biggest threat for an attack was through the end of hajj and this article gave so many details as to why the threat wasn't diminishing. Actually, I found parts of the article unsettling.
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#8 Postby Stephanie » Sun Feb 16, 2003 9:09 pm

Unfortunately, we are in the infancy stages of our new Homeland Security Department and it shows. However, this new department consists of "old" departments that should be able to supply alot of information as to how the government should prepare for a terrorist attack and what people can do to protect themselves.

The money that has been ear-marked for the states and local municipalities needs to be released now and more money needs to be provided. In other words, there have been alot of federal directives to the states and local governments of what they want them to do. However, the states and local governments need to start saying to the government "Show me the Money!".
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#9 Postby Rob-TheStormChaser » Sun Feb 16, 2003 9:15 pm

Tom Ridge is a good guy. He came from PA as our Gov, and he'll do a great job....I just hope that the rest of the people can collaborate and find a simple solution here amid this complex madness.
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#10 Postby streetsoldier » Sun Feb 16, 2003 9:25 pm

Well (and some of you may have wondered why I was posting like a cat with its tail caught), I got an unbelievable jolt last week...our esteemed Governor, Bob ("Sponge-Bob" or "One-Term Bob") Holden, is refusing to authorize activation of our Missouri State Military Reserve!

This means a long, drawn-out battle in the Legisature...fact is that this MoSMR should have been immediately called up the day after 9-11, and those of us who WISH to serve are left "out in the cold", wondering what in God's Name is Hizzoner thinking? :roll: Especially when activation would cost the State NOTHING, as the costs would be paid out by the state soldiers themselves...
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#11 Postby Rob-TheStormChaser » Sun Feb 16, 2003 9:32 pm

Sure makes me wonder what Bob is really Holden!!! heehee
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#12 Postby streetsoldier » Sun Feb 16, 2003 9:39 pm

He's "Holden" the hands of Big (?) Labor and the education lobby, Rob...plus he is facing the first GOP State Senate and House since the Eisenhower Administration, and they are not about to cater to his "tax-and-spend" proposals as did the previous bodies.

It's all about partisan politics; he's up against a brick wall, and he knows it, so he's acting like a brat that didn't get his new toy chest filled... :roll:
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#13 Postby wx247 » Sun Feb 16, 2003 10:47 pm

He is a jerk. It is hard to even find Democrats who like him.

Garrett :lol:
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#14 Postby streetsoldier » Sun Feb 16, 2003 11:03 pm

One notable example of how "Hizzoner" takes care of business; last November, the voters in Missouri defeated a 375% tax on cigarettes, and we thought that was the end of it.

So, what does Governor Holden offer in his "State of the State" message? Asks for new taxes, with the lynch-pin of his proposal the SAME cigarette tax that the voters rejected!

We learned that the Governor wouldn't authorize the MoSMR from the Army officer detailed to coordinate the state's Homeland Security liaison, who stated that there was no "wide-spread support" for it...meaning that the Executive branch cut off any discussion. Now, we are working through both Houses, man-by-man-by-woman...

One would think that, under the present emergency, any volunteers would be welcome and appreciated?
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#15 Postby wx247 » Mon Feb 17, 2003 12:16 am

What a wasted 4 years of Missouri Governorship! :(

As far as the article goes...there are some unsettling newsworthy items in there. One official in another article I read stated that if you knew everything that they did on the Intelligence Committee within the last few weeks "you would be sleeping in shifts" :o

Garrett :multi:
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#16 Postby Rainband » Mon Feb 17, 2003 11:10 am

All I can say is GHEEZ :roll: Now they are gonna lower the terror alert....
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